Home > Internet > Japan, China, S. Korea developing next Net Japan, China, S. Korea developing next Net Eugenia Loli 2003-12-30 Internet 21 Comments Japan, China and South Korea are reportedly planning to jointly develop Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6), the next-generation Internet standard, a move that will challenge the U.S.-dominated market for current IPv4-based Internet technology. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 21 Comments 2003-12-31 6:20 am 1) IPv6 has been developed already 2) What is this “market”? Yes, the U.S. has a boatload of IPv4 addresses, but IPv6 doesn’t challenge this – it lets more computers connect by providing for more addresses. 3) There aren’t enough IPv4 addresses for those countries. U.S. doesn’t really need to care much. Of course they’re gonna spend money on implementing IPv6. Conclusion: The article is intended to be picked up by mainstream news networks where the general public won’t know how redundant and nonsensical this article is. 2003-12-31 6:29 am IP version 6 is not new and has been used by many people for some time. In December of 1998 the IEEE standard was created as RFC 2464 and can be viewed here: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2464.txt You can read more about IP version 6 in just about any networking book writen in the past 5 years or just follow the link above for the complete explination. 2003-12-31 7:00 am What is Japanese IPv6 network? Shouldn’t it be connected to the global Internet anyway? I mean that there shouldn’t be any conflicts between them. I know it is a problem if one single coutry dominates such global thing though. 2003-12-31 8:11 am it’s difficult to centrally control a world-wide distribution of networks. it wouldn’t happen. they’d just have a snazzier infrastructure than over here, and there’s nothing preventing us from doing the same. 2003-12-31 8:53 am IP address distribution is on US, isn’t it? 2003-12-31 9:03 am I was at the Apricot 2003 convention in Taipei, and the main topic was IPv6. The important things to note are: 1. Industry and government in Asia, particularly those that produce networking hardware, are pushing IPv6 readiness in products. These countries don’t want to “miss the boat”. 2. Many of the governments are dictating that their own military and civil organizations must make the switch by a certain date; for example, requiring public-access government web sites to be available via IPv6 and IPv4. 3. Here in Taiwan, HiNet was offering DSL with IPv6 and IPv4 access to interested parties. 4. During many presentations, it was noted that the United States was not interested in IPv6 migration and not devoting much attention to it. The European and Asian delegates seemed to think that this was a mistake, as it could put the U.S. behind in certain services and products. 5. Two notable exceptions: Cisco and Juniper were there, and they pledged full IPv6 support in core routing/switching products. 6. Mobile devices and IPSec were discussed in detail as excellent reasons to migrate…not just addressing. 7. The current mess of NAT breaking many applications was discussed. With IPv6 addressing and broadband, running peer-to-peer applications will work MUCH better without NAT in the picture. My guess is that the high-tech Asian countries will have IPv6 networks, services, and consumer broadband access widely available long before the U.S. does. American telcos take note! 2003-12-31 9:36 am you all are really idiot, why u all want to critize every articles in osnews, really don understand. 2003-12-31 12:37 pm I doubt Europe will be implementing IPv6 as quickly as Asia, the sole reason being economics. It’s far easier for those Asian countries since they have to set up the infrastructure from scratch or almost, whereas most European countries would be spending thousands of millions of euors just to migrate. Still, it looks like the EU’s intent is to become far more digitized and broadband in the immediate future, but as we say in Italy; between saying and doing lies the sea… 2003-12-31 1:09 pm Huh? South Korea and Japan will have to set up the infrastructure from almost scratch?! ROTFl, think again. 2003-12-31 2:01 pm added to zima’s commment: more than 90% of S.Korea households has a broadband access, world’s #1. S.Korea, Japan (and maybe Taiwan and Singapore) absolutely don’t set up things from scratch. 2003-12-31 2:33 pm I hardly find that a great feat. Considering the USA is 3,537,441 sq mi and S.Korea is 38,000 sq mi, the USA has whomped korea’s coverage. We have 50% of your 90% of connected users at nearly 93x the size of geographical area to cover. What else you got? 2003-12-31 4:02 pm OffTopic: The Shoe needs to read more. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=broadban… http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/ict/cs/korea/material/CS_KOR.pdf http://www.pdsconsulting.net/ShortPaper-KoreaBroadband.pdf On Topic: The CNET article is a mess. Maybe the editors transposed developing with implementing. s/implementing/developing/g 2003-12-31 4:43 pm what is your point. I think you totally missed mine. We have much more land to cover=more “cable” to lay. We aren’t as densly populated as S.K. is. This makes it more difficult to connect us to broadband. Cable companies don’t want to spend the money to hook up “farmers”. So again. I say this is not a big deal. 45-50 million S.K’s are on broadband we have 21+ million over 93x the geographical area to cover. I find that a greater accomplishment given the ratio. So what is your point? you drop PDF’s in my face and expect me to sit here and extrapolate what your point is from them.. sorry, cut to the chase please. 2003-12-31 6:37 pm you all are really idiot, why u all want to critize every articles in osnews, really don understand. There does seem to be alot of critisizem 2004-01-01 12:48 am Windows, Linux, and BSD already have support for IPv6. If anyone brings IP6 to the masses it will be Cisco, Juniper, and companies that provide NAT solutions. 2004-01-01 5:05 am IPv.4 e.g. 123.456.789.112 (This is an example so dont relate to actual IP Addresses) IPv.6 e.g. 12b.45c.d4f.i0g.67g.6t0 – This is what ip v6 represents. By the year 2006 we will run out of IP(V4) addresses on this Planet – That mean new computer cannot log on to the network. So we need IP v6 to fullfill those shortages. With ip v6 we will never run out of Addresses upto 500 year, Thaz a lot time to thing over again. This technology can , not only be used for PC, but also for wireless network. Think of the future where u forgot to shutdown the A/c of your house while u where out, Just send the message through Cell phone and A/c will be shutdown through your cell phone commands. This mean that normal home applicance will be also connected to the network. So i assume that the IT – companies are heading in the right direction. The only question remains is how the new world will coexist with the old one??? 2004-01-01 12:11 pm I dunno what is going on with this article, but this is the second poor commentary of the Nikkei article that I have seen on the net. The other article about it was in a Sydney newspaper, and was equally poor. The original Nikkei article (sorry, it’s in Japanese so I’ll have to paraphrase) is basically saying that these countries want to develop technology to *utilize* IPv6, not invent it. They hope to standardize the method of connecting things such as house hold appliances together (pushing for a defacto standard) and also work on developing necessary security to prevent the hackers from messing with the temperature in your refridgerator and the like. I guess this article was based on information from a translation by a translator who knows little about technology to be able to understand. 2004-01-01 12:56 pm So what? You do realize that density is just average value, right? Most people live in large agglomerations anyway. 2004-01-02 2:36 am good comment. this is a classic use fear to gain attention approach to journalism. 2004-01-02 4:00 am At this point I dont think IP v 6 will have much of an effect, it probably wont for quite some time… Many people in fact, dont understand electronic devices, so when a “new internet” comes around, they will not have a clue what is going on! So basically I think any ISP, or country for that matter, should wait to invest such a large amount of funds into IP v 6 until the people are ready to listen… 2004-01-02 1:47 pm Your still missing the point. We have WAY more people in 93x the space and 20+ million connected NATIONWIDE!!!! we have alot more cities and a lot more terrain to cover. They are in 38,000 sq mi. We’ve covered that much already and then some.