MandrakeSoft today announced a major evolution in the way that future Mandrake Linux distributions will be engineered and released. The purpose of this new development process is to provide the highest level of new features, as well as maximizing the quality of new products. This new release road map will be effective for the upcoming Mandrake Linux 10.0. Read the rest at mandrakelinux.com.
Mandrake Changes Linux Development Process
Submitted by Joerlei P. Lima 2004-02-02 Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris 24 Comments
so we can expect to have a pretty solid FINAL OS on their hands after the community testing phase. Mandrake 9.2 is already one of the most complete/user friendly distros out there, so if they chose to extend the testing period by releasing a “community version” it will be only to their advantage. Maybe more distros will find this model better and start using it.
My 0,02 eurocents
:::PROUD TO LIVE IN THE BIRTHLAND OF LINUX:::
The sounds familiar… Can’t quite put my finger on it… Oh, wait! Fedora! :d
“The sounds familiar… Can’t quite put my finger on it… Oh, wait! Fedora! :d”
No, no!! 🙂
The Official Release will be available for free to: “Mandrake 10.0 Official ISO images will also be available for all contributors and Club Members; then, after a short delay, Mandrake Linux 10.0 Official Download Edition will be made available on public FTP mirrors.”
As you can see my friend, it’s not Fedora. Yes, it’s quite a Fedora if you make use of the community because you will find some bugs in it, but on the same way we can use the official version for free if we want that. We just will wait a little more. 🙂
One think that I suggested to Francois Bancilhon is a new form to sell Mandrake Linux. It would be faster (and cheaper for both sides) sell iso images from MandrakeStore. A lot of people can’t buy a boxed version for many reasons. I personaly can’t wait (and pay a doble price) for a boxed Power Pack or Pro Suite. Other reason is that boxed versions of Mandrake Linux isn’t available in Brazil (when it is you will find very old packages – just now you can find Mandrake 9.0 Power Pack).
Power Pack cost in USA USD 69. If I buy from there, it will cost me (including taxes and delivery) USD 150 and I will wait 3 months from the original release.
If they sell iso images (the same way you get Red Hat Enterprise) it will cost me less than USD 100 and I will get it in less than a week from the release. This way will be more profitable to Mandrake Soft too.
I think this will help a lot of people around the World.
Sorry for my poor English.
I have been a fan for Mandrake for a long time, and it worked fine for me until now. I have a new computer with a VIA Rhine II integrated NIC, and the computer hangs when obtaining an IP through DHCP. Knoppix boots fine. From what I read on google, it has been a Mandrake-kernel problem for quite a long time. Hopefully this new approach will iron out these kinds of bugs. Otherwise a great distro, just not using it now because of this NIC-problem.
Good luck to Mandrake,
simply because the problem with the LG cdrom has hurt them a lot with 9.2, is’nt it ?
VIA Rhine II works great here when turning off I/O apic. Did you try booting with noapic and acpi=off kernel boot parameters. You’re common problem has a very simple fix.
Because this is a much better way to go. Essentially they are forking Cooker into a stable and an unstable branch every six months. Updates will be made directly to the stable branch for about 3 months and then will be frozen as official, with all future bugfixes/updates distributed in the usual way. Now, everytime I do a new ftp install or install from my local mirror, I won’t have to apply all the updates and security patches, they will already be installed. This will be a huge improvement IMO and I fully support it..
Everyone wanted them to issue updated iso’s with patches applied, etc. with 9.2 and they resisted doing that because 9.2 had gone to press. Guess what folks, they are listening to their users and making some changes that will be for the (much) better. 9.2.1 isos and a change in the development process to allow a rock solid release.
I know a bunch of you are going to say Mandrake sucks no matter what they do, but IMO they are really turning it around.
So basicly they are just calling RC2 as community and final as Official, How is this going to change anything. I guess they hope more will try it out and not be scared off by the RC2 lable. Hopefully there is a lot more too it then that. on a side note I wonder if they plan on useing any of the changes used in PcLinux, for thoes who havnt tried it, they took mdk 9.2 and made it a live cd (that can be installed to the drive), with much better hardware detection, real hardware support for nvidia and ati cards, and better icons and window manager theme
first of all, whats this gotta do with Micr0$0ft?
sendly, where does mandrake state that there will be a Prosuite an a Powerpack release, as far as i have read there will only be a Final suite meaning 1 Mandrake Distro an the Community version released, maybe mandrake need to clarify things for its users/members
Can you please direct me to where I can download the source code for that “Windows XP” you speak of? Thanks.
“No need to worry about downloading the stable and unstable version, Microsoft does not release unstable versions to consumers. They have paid developers and testers who employed solely to find the problems before releasing them to innocent end-users.”
Really? What would you call Service Packs my friend?
no, not really. They’re renaming what you currently get as the “Community” version and adding a process where it gets stabilised further to become a “Final” release.
Sure, it’s at the same place as the Linux driver for my DVD handheld camera.
I hope this means that someone will finally fix the bug with the installer, where it overwrites the mbr even if I ask it not to.
Sure, it’s at the same place as the Linux driver for my DVD handheld camera.
Perhaps you should go there as well, instead of trolling comments sections.
It’s only a matter of time before there’s a driver for your camera. I doubt that this can be said of MS opening up their code. What will be your cute reply then?
Meanwhile, yet another worm is propagating with the help of Windows machines – something which was also made possible the “paid developers and testers employed solely to find the problems before releasing them to innocent end-users.”
Nice try, troll, but bad timing.
It’s not a bug ! You just don’t know what the hell you are doing. Unless you select advance from the first screen you see an option to choose advance ( I.E. language selection screen ) you won’t get a chance edit the boot options.
No need to worry about downloading the stable and unstable version, Microsoft does not release unstable versions to consumers. They have paid developers and testers who employed solely to find the problems before releasing them to innocent end-users.
Remember Windows ME? The paid developers and testers invloved in that pile of dung should have been fired.
What John said maybe true, with certain FS (don’t remember which one), it will not give you a choice (at least not during initial install).
If you are afflicted by windows me, just download/register 98 Lite from http://www.litepc.com, and un me-ify it. Also, they have a microsoft bloatware remover for win 2000 and xp now, too….
Anyway, it would be nice to download mdk 10 with my Club membership, and then buy the retail pack with all upgrades and fixes already included. I think this is a more polished and professional way for Mandrake to release new versions of their fine OS….
Wait anonymous say that again, just wait until I am a safe distance from the flame thrower.
I chose to install the boot manager in the root partition. Yet it installs it straight away to the MBR.
I think the installer should allow the user to finalise there configuration, before it commits to changes to the users system.
Believe me this occurred for me with an older v8.x of Mandrake and with the recent 9.x series.
It is a simple issue and I hope it has been fixed. We will see with v.10 when the community version or final is released.
So now you want the Windows sourcecode? I thought it was an insecure piece of crap? I guess, you just want to GPL that insecure piece of crap and release WinDrake 0.1beta as soon as possible. I, for one, am thankful that the source for Windows is not available. We don’t have people forking it, creating incompatible versions, just so they have can have a different default desktop, or their name in the credits. No one has to fork Windows to get hardware detection working properly, or to support easy installation of distributed software. Windows developers took the time to do it for you, and now Windows users are benefitting from it. From the stability, to the driver compatibility, to the not having to update every six months to keep up with dependencies for standard software installation. As for you, have fun compiling things from source, because binary compatibility does not exist.
I guess you do have one advatange, a Linux worm could never succeed, because it would only run on the computer that compiled it. Unless, it was a source worm that compiled itself! That’s a great idea.
Why are you trolling here and posting off-topic?
Windows source will never be released, even if MS wanted because it is full of pattents and code that doesn’t 100% belong to them.
Noone needs the source of windows because it would be a useless base for OSS.
People at WineHQ, Codeweavers and Transgaming reimplement Win32 API’s, and are very familiar with MS SDK’s. Anyway, you’re a troll. There are compatibility standards for Linux too, like symbol versionning, and the compat-gcc suite in RedHat/Fedora and RedHat compatible distro’s. Anything compiled with those runs on every other version of Linux.
Or use Debian Woody to compile binaries, like CodeWeavers and Transgaming use to compile binaries, Debian Woody.
On topic: I hope that MDK 10 will have bether support for WINE based products.
So you acknowledge that Windows is an insecure piece of crap that helps to propagate worms? Good to know.
BTW you don’t need to “fork” anything to have a different desktop in Linux: just use the control panels for your DE. Oh, and there’s no need to compile anything, silly rabbit – that’s what distros are for. I launch the program installer, select what I want to upgrade, click on Install and *poof* new software automatically installed, with the menu item automatically added. It’s simpler than in Windows.
Perhaps you should actually try Linux before trolling Linux comment sections.
when the free downloadable version of Mandrake 10 will released?