Two new videos showing some of the new features and programs on SkyOS are now availiable on SkyOSnet. The new beta4 video shows off the crystal icons, OpenGL, SkyKruzer, the fileselector, popup dialogs, and the terminal. Keep in mind its a beta, and it was recorded in Vitual PC, so the speed does not accurately reflect the real running speed.
Two New SkyOS 5-beta4 Videos
Submitted by Proph3t 2004-03-21 SkyOS 54 Comments
well done Eugenia!!! Actually SkyOS is looking quite good. And at $30 i think i’ll be buying it
Why the f… are the movies in WMV format?
why? u cant run it?
Yep, they sure are in the MS video format. Why somebody supporting an alternative OS would be helping MS maintain their position is beyond me. Luckily I can watch WMV’s on Linux when I have to using the MS .dll’s.
Also… why did they include an application crashing in their demo? That just seems… counter-productive.
You would think they would use an mpeg or avi.
Whoops, proph3t better start prepairing for some bandwidth suckage.
Ya, ive got a nice host, so I hope this is a good test. Also, sorry about the wmv thing, I recieved them like that and did’nt take the time to convert them. I’ll do that soon.
i rendered it as a 200mb avi.. do you want that?
i just ran it through windows movie maker real fast to get it down in size.. its also at 720×480 because windows movie maker thinks i was going to record it to dv..
dont complain, it doesnt look like you want it anyway ^o)
HI there, interesting, but seriously, i dont think to many people need to see a video of an opengl demo. Skyos is looking better and better everytime (still dont like the theme though). Keep it up!
the last skyOS demo i saw looked like someone was playing a porn movie, a very sick one. maybe it would just a regular movie though. but still..
this OS looks great. It looks like it may speed right past Zeta. It just needs some cool drivers.
how about a server version? port apache!
When will netcraft report skyos.org as running skyOS? 😉
I know it is aimed at desktop usage – but it would still be cool!
1. it was a commercial
2. it was a joke! if You cant understand jkes than it’s Your problem.
3. if it was porn You would be able to actualy see exactly what’s happening, right? I watched that SkyOS movie 3 times just to see where people see porn there… and there was none. It’s Your imagination, that say it’s porn, so maybe You need to see real one instead of jumping around each time You see spicy-joke-based commercial ;P
If you think that’s porn, you obviously have never seen European TV. It was probably a commercial.
Anyway, I just saw the vid. Looks pretty spiffy, though unpolished in places. The icons look kinda fuzzy (may just be the compression, though) and same of the spacing in the layout is weird. Promising, though. I dig the taskbar animation, real spiff.
Yeah, it would be great if it was in some more “independent” format.
I can’t play it on BeOS, nor on Knoppix (3.3-something) .
they are very fast in developement im very impressed
Besides that I still don’t like the titlebars (which is a minor thing because of the great themeing capabilities SkyOS will have), this is just an amazing project.
We need to give SkyOS a nickname (it irritates me that I have to use shift everytime when I say the name…)
But then again, if I can only complain about the title bars and the fact that I have to use shift, that says how great the rest is, right?
Congrats to the SkyOS team!
hmm, I’ve been able to play WMV in VLC before. What’s changed?
Well, not everybody’s got VLC installed… (or does know bout it).
VLC wont work cause its made in Windows Media Encoder 9 wich means it uses a different kind of wmv format (version 3 i belive) then the older versions.
you gotta remember that no GUI uis totally unique or inative (forgive poor spelling) any more, and if were going to nit pick Apple too kthe GUI idea from Xerox Labs, also the Mouse idea was taken from Xerox Labs by apple, does apple include a note saying “GUI inspired by Xerox Labs” AFAIK they dont,
anyways skyOs is an amazing project with loads of potential and that video ppl are sayin is porn is a cat food advert is was aired here in the UK too.
Well, not everybody’s got VLC installed… (or does know bout it).
hehe, I said that because it didn’t work for me in VLC, wmv usually do. But digge explained why.
Please linky, I must’ve missed it 😉
It seems a bit sluggish, or is that because they’re recording the screen?
“Keep in mind its a beta, and it was recorded in Vitual PC, so the speed does not accurately reflect the real running speed.”
Says so in the OSNews.com headline…
Bah, never read it…
Whatever you do, don’t try and install SkyOS to a logical partition.
Care to share the horror story?!
It’s looking pretty cool, I’ll probably start looking into SkyOS and OpenGL further now.
I think it’s a bit worrying that the demo runs on Virtual PC. Suggests that the devs can’t even get it to boot on their own PCs..
I remember multiple people who tried the last SkyOS version (4.x) just to see it crash at boot-up, probably because of hardware incompatibilty.
Really people just because your hobby OS boots in Bochs/Virtual PC doesn’t mean it will boot on any real computer outthere. In fact hardware compatibilty is one of the hardest problems for OS dev in x86 land.
I remember Linux distros (SuSE, Mandrak) a few years back would crash trying to boot on 3 out of 4 of my PCs. None of them had exotic hardware.. Today Linux has mostly solved this problem but in the case of SkyOS you should really try the demo disk on your computer before paying. I guess it won’t boot on at least 70% of the PCs outthere.
I suppose it runs on Virtual PC because there’s no screen recording application for SkyOS. Also, these videos weren’t made by the developers, but by betatesters. I haven’t tested my copy on a real PC yet, but that’s only because I want to free up my old 4GB HD for it. The partitioner is very unreliable at the moment it seems.
Videos of SkyOS running native.
I’m still not sure what, exactly, happened. I told it to create a SkyFS partition inside an extended partition. After that, no other OS’s Disk utilities could see anything inside the extended partition. fdisk (under Linux) couldn’t even see a partition table for the disk. Thankfully the only think I lost was a linux partition full of games (most of which I’ve since reinstalled).
Just a little confused. I keep hearing this referred to as a hobby os. If that’s the case, why are they charging $30 for it? To cover bandwidth charges?
If so, seems there should be a better way. I’m sure they could find someone to volunteer to host the site. And they could distribute the iso’s through ptp like Lindows does.
Unless if it’s not really a hobby os, and instead is really a commercial for profit os.
Which is it? If hobby os, then why charge?
“Which is it? If hobby os, then why charge?”
I think SkyOS is in between.
And besides, if Robert wants to charge money for his project, then why shouldn’t he? Hobby OS or not, he has the right to. A lot of people fail to realize that software is just a product, no more, no less. And products have to be created. And THAT costs REAL time. And REAL time, costs REAL money.
Don’t think companies such as Mandrake and Suse etc. release their distro’s in a free form “because they believe in the virtues of OSS”. They do so because the don’t have much of a choice. If they did have a choice, they’d be charging a hell of a lot more.
Ow, and you know, this discussion has been held a million times before. If you don’t want to spend 30 USD, then don’t.
I have a question. We have Windows and Mac OS X. Is anybody here crying for another proprietary OS?
If so, why? Is there anything that SkyOS does that is all that new? It doesn’t look that way to me and it is a one-man project, which means that once he gets fed up, the project vanishes and, given that it is not open source, nobody can pick it up where he left off.
If you look at the SkyOS site, there are 6 developers listed, as well as 8 people working on translation. Last time I checked, 14 > 1.
The open GL one was particularly illuminating.
(I couldn’t get the damn wmv files to open at all.)
only one man robert has access to the Os Code, all the other developers are porting apps and creating new ones for SkyOs so SkyOs is still a one man project
“if Robert wants to charge money for his project, then why shouldn’t he? Hobby OS or not, he has the right to….If you don’t want to spend 30 USD, then don’t”
You kind of missed my point. I don’t care if they charge money for the OS. I think he has a right to. And I’m also not to cheap to spend $30 for an OS. My point however is, if it’s a hobby os, then why charge money for it? It’s suppossed to be created for the love of the hobby, not for the revenue generated from it.
I’m not judging SKYOS anyway. I was just looking for clarification on what exactly it is. I’ve only heard news sites refer to it as hobby os…I’ve never actually heard the developers say that however.
I’m also looking for clarification so that I know future intentions for the OS. If it’s commercial, then I can expect there to be a huge amount of driver support, many application ports, more staff hired, longer commitment… If it’s hobby, then I can expect that they reach a certain point where they’re happy with it, at which time they slowly let the project die.
“I’m not judging SKYOS anyway. I was just looking for clarification on what exactly it is. I’ve only heard news sites refer to it as hobby os…I’ve never actually heard the developers say that however.”
Then you should take it at that. People call us a “Hobby OS” because in the past, SkyOS HAS been a hobby OS. I would love nothing more than to get the “Hobby” portion of our description dropped by the media, but I want to do so on our own merit. I’m not going to go around and hassle people to stop calling us a hobby OS. When they’ve used SkyOS and decide that its past what a “hobby” is, then they can call it as such.
If you looked into the skyos site, you would see they are trying to drop the “hobby os” title. There are some higher up “staff” like Kelly and Nathan, and theres a GUI team and Applicatoin Development team underneath Kelly (GUI) and Nathan (Apps). Robert works on it about every day, and progress is posted quite often.
They already have GIMP, GAIM (almost), Abiword, ZSNES, SkyKruzer (browser), Calculator, Image Veiwer, Media Player, and a few other basic programs. Others are working on a MSPaint type program and an Outlook type email client. So, I think applications support is quite nice right now.
heh, had the same thing happen (i was worried during the install when i went back into the partition manager and my linux swap space was showing up as not having a partition defined… along with several other partitions on the box)
reboot the box… and find that the entire partition table has been hosed.
im waiting on aquiring a hard drive to use for skyos alone before another run at it.
im just glad i backup all my stuff to storage drives ;}
Thanks for the clarification. Believe it or not, I think that’s great news. I’m glad to hear it. I would’ve been dissapointed if it was just a hobby os. Knowing it’s commercial means I know there’s a stronger time commitment being given and also more effort to support a vast array of x86 hardware.
Also means more competition in the OS market and more choices for consumers, and yours is certainly shaping into a viable competitor.
Not that I don’t think Hobby OS’s are cool (I think they’re very cool), but I’m personally not gonna switch to a platform on my home pc which I know could be easily dropped just because it’s a hobby.
I like Windows, but I hate MS. I like Linux, but I don’t love the current Window Manager offerings. I’ll never be a Mac guy because I’ll never spend that much money on hardware.
Knowing that it’s a commercial OS makes me want to support it more though. I’ve got a few graphical security applications I’ve written which I was planning to release on Linux for free. When I’m ready to do so (just waiting for a publication first), I’ll contact you guys about porting it to you as well (if you end up being interested). Currently they use the LibPcap library though. I don’t know if that’s been ported yet, but I’ll look into it.
Good Luck with your venture!
Glad to hear that you’re interested. We’re going to do as much as we can on our end, but in the end, if we are successful or not is not to be judged by us, but by our users.
It doesn’t look too bad, but the window rendering looks very flickery.
Unless that’s just virtual pc’s fault, in which case I should shutup
Most of that would indeed have to do with both the fact that it is VMWare, as well as a screen-capturing utility, which is also hogging CPU power. When I tried to do a video capture while running SkyOS in VMWare on my XP2200, it made VMWare VERY choppy, and would only capture at 15fps. I’m really surprised the capture they did turned out as well as it did. Kudos to them.
The demo video does have porn in there.
If you find beastality porn funny…that’s just f-ed up.
If you find beastality porn funny…that’s just f-ed up
it is not porn! it’s a commercial. how many times do we need to explain that.
Hahah. I just watched it, that looks like a hilarious commerial. I’m afraid if you couldn’t watch that and laugh you are more f-ed up then people that actually watch real bestiality. Learn to take a joke.
Almost forgot to say that it’s not really a porno. Are you critics what 12 years old?
got Zeta RC2 installed here and it doesn’t support wmv, neither in VLC (it’s the 0.7.0 installed … what a shame) neither in other players !
Why not a good mpeg ?
BeScreenCapture under BeOS is quite good for video capture … perhaps a way to port it ?
This is not the kind of pussy on pussy we like. You call that porn? Where are the midgets?
Very impressive.If these guys are going to market it and be successful in the long term then they need corporate backing to provide advertising and futher R&D funding.These guys need the freedom to work on this full time. Very promising