I pulled it down to see if the latest Supermount and grsecurity patches would cleanly apply, but no dice. On the plus side, they finally merged ALSA with support for my old Vortex 2 card.
Yes, Tim Hockin was the main Cobalt (may Cobalt Rest in Peace, it was the best conservative never changing longest supported Linux to date) – he was the main Cobalt kernel hacker and he was very good.
He has done a lot for Linux. Also, most distributions copy the look and feel of Solaris (RedHat and friends in particular) before the ‘desktop’ shows up.
I also think that anyone who doesn’t think Sun is a great company and needs everyone’s help to survive is a bit, well, mean. They have done quite a bit for me throughout my career since before they were a company, to my first workstation, to today. No one is perfect, but just because they don’t have a lot of free stuff to download doesn’t mean you don’t owe them a debt of gratitude. Some of the greatest software engineers to date came from Sun, most of Google’s founding team worked at Sun (check it out here: http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html Former sun {Dr. Eric E. Schmidt (CEO), George Reyes CFO, Wayne Rosing VP Engineering, and Sergey Brin and Larry Page both went to Stanford (SUN = Stanford University Networks)}) I work with people who have worked at Sun. Working at Sun or HP or Xerox PARC at some point or another is almost a required pre-requisite to be a superstar in the SiValley arena.
Those of you who do not understand Sun, just get a job there. You really should. Pretty much any computer enthusiast with a bit of balls can probably get a job at Sun – just wait (and pray) for the hiring freeze to lift and get yourself ready to see one of the coolest companies around. I dined at the main campus with friends just the other day, it is the holy land for computer science.
Anyone have the anouncement text? I always love reading Linus’s little synopsis rather then crawling through the changelog – that things freaking huge. LinuxToday is often snappy about posting it, but it so far hasn’t at the time of this posting. Kerneltrap.org is being a but and won’t load, and Slashdot hasn’t posted it either. Anyone have a link? Thnx in advance.
I’ve been using MM-sources 2.6.5 kernel on Gentoo for a few days now. I have to say it’s already a very stable and reliable kernel. Congrats to the 2.6 team for delivering what was promised.
BTW, pre-empt scheduler really gives the desktop and multitasking feel
im with andrew patches on rc3, but rather would like to see some changelogs between 2.6.5-rc3 and final release than having a freaking huge changelog between 2.6.4-2.6.5
not all amorton bits get on final so .. im wondering if its advisable to switch stable or stay on the goodness of -mm4!?
YOUR NEXT BOOK: Making profit from opensource, and programmers that contribute for free!!!
Some of you contribute for linux/opensource product and don’t ever stopped for thing in what they are doing, maybe the most stupid thing they do in their live. If you see around, you see there are company’s that are profiting from your work! Yes, yes it’s true! Look at for example, suse, redhat, mandrack, mysql, and others company’s that profit from opensource. Some of them make available to public, like for example suse, a trial version of 90 days for try the operating system, and others have a disk with a demonstration functional CD, that I couldn’t install in my hard drive, not to talk in the fact that you must pay prices like for example $99 for have a completed product.
Open source is a theory that is based especially in contributions… code that programmers give it away for company’s profit…
I have no problem with companies taking Open Source work and repackaging it with whatever tools they want and selling it. Cause I have the choice not to buy their implementation. Companies like SuSE and RedHat contribute back to the kernel and other such projects like Gnome or KDE. They may keep their proprietary work but that’s their right.
Besides I don’t have to buy their implementation of free software. I can pick and compile or install what I want of a large variety of free software.
GIMP, Mozilla, Evolution, OpenOffice, Xfree, Gnome, KDE, and Linux Kernel are some of the major production level packages taht I can install without agreeing to a large EULA or paying large fees. If I decide to contribute because I feel the need to pay back the community for what it has given me free of charge, that’s my choice. You can question my integrity….. but you’ll never take my FREEDOM!!!!
And in exchange, a lot of those companies contribute things back. Several professional kernel programmers are working full-time for RedHat. SuSE and Mandrake employed programmers to work on KDE. Sun employed programmers to work on GNOME. This list goes on and on.
>major production level packages taht I can install without agreeing to a large EULA
There are no major level packages distributed without EULA. For every package, you must read and agree with the license supplied. In case of Linux distro, for example, you must read and agree with EULAs of all separate software packages and components included.
As a minimum, every major package excludes itself from all and any responsibilities to you.
The fact that EULA does not jump in your face does not mean it is not there or that you can ignore it.
I’ve been using MM-sources 2.6.5 kernel on Gentoo for a few days now. I have to say it’s already a very stable and reliable kernel. Congrats to the 2.6 team for delivering what was promised.
C’mon jbett, you, of all people, should know that stability isn’t about being up for a few days. I’m not claiming that 2.6 isn’t stable, I haven’t given it a real chance (last time I tried, user input was SUPER slow so I bailed), but I think it will take time before people can really claim 2.6 as being a time-tested stable kernel.
You have no clue as to what open source is about. Are you aware that Suse almost single handedly funds the development of the Reiser file system, that IBM funds (and helped found) the Open source Development Labs, that Sun contributed the bulk of the code for Open Office, that Ximian produced Evolution, that Mandrake contributes money to many and various open source projects to keep development going, and Apple funds the Darwin project. When this code is produced it is released for FREE. Free means do with it what you will. Any company that sells Linux is helping the Linux cause by increasing public awareness of it. Get a clue or go play with Windows instead of slandering open source.
Last time I checked this release has support for the “Prism54” wireless cards. So if you had problems before and that’s your chipset then you can try again with this kernel!
Seems to be full of a lot of obscure fixes… which is probably a good thing, as it demonstrates that the 2.6.x series is stablizing quickly….
SUN is exceptional in not contributing to the kernel despite offering a Linux desktop product but is not doing well so maybe that will change.
I pulled it down to see if the latest Supermount and grsecurity patches would cleanly apply, but no dice. On the plus side, they finally merged ALSA with support for my old Vortex 2 card.
At least they fixed this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119386
so I am happy.
What kind of framerates are you getting with that non-3d accelerated tux-racing?
There have been some, e.g. autofs patches a couple of months ago.
>What kind of framerates are you getting with that non-3d accelerated tux-racing?
Funny you ask:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119667
LOL. I had no previous knowledge that you ran tuxracer with a non 3d-accelerated card. I asked because I read the bug report you linked to.
Ok…hehe…I hadn’t scrolled down and read “additional comments”. I was wondering what you were up to running tuxracer with no 3d goodness.
Actually Tim Hockin from Sun has contributed numerous patches. Simply scan the Changelogs.
Yes, Tim Hockin was the main Cobalt (may Cobalt Rest in Peace, it was the best conservative never changing longest supported Linux to date) – he was the main Cobalt kernel hacker and he was very good.
He has done a lot for Linux. Also, most distributions copy the look and feel of Solaris (RedHat and friends in particular) before the ‘desktop’ shows up.
I also think that anyone who doesn’t think Sun is a great company and needs everyone’s help to survive is a bit, well, mean. They have done quite a bit for me throughout my career since before they were a company, to my first workstation, to today. No one is perfect, but just because they don’t have a lot of free stuff to download doesn’t mean you don’t owe them a debt of gratitude. Some of the greatest software engineers to date came from Sun, most of Google’s founding team worked at Sun (check it out here: http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html Former sun {Dr. Eric E. Schmidt (CEO), George Reyes CFO, Wayne Rosing VP Engineering, and Sergey Brin and Larry Page both went to Stanford (SUN = Stanford University Networks)}) I work with people who have worked at Sun. Working at Sun or HP or Xerox PARC at some point or another is almost a required pre-requisite to be a superstar in the SiValley arena.
Those of you who do not understand Sun, just get a job there. You really should. Pretty much any computer enthusiast with a bit of balls can probably get a job at Sun – just wait (and pray) for the hiring freeze to lift and get yourself ready to see one of the coolest companies around. I dined at the main campus with friends just the other day, it is the holy land for computer science.
> just wait (and pray) for the hiring freeze to lift and get yourself ready to see one of the coolest companies around.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040403/NEWS/4…
Sun is firing 3300 of its coolest employees. I wonder if praying will be enough to get a job there
Anyone have the anouncement text? I always love reading Linus’s little synopsis rather then crawling through the changelog – that things freaking huge. LinuxToday is often snappy about posting it, but it so far hasn’t at the time of this posting. Kerneltrap.org is being a but and won’t load, and Slashdot hasn’t posted it either. Anyone have a link? Thnx in advance.
Damn, I just got 2.6.4 installed last week. I’ll be rebooting as often as a Windows user at this rate!
That’s why I wait until every other release before I update. I finally have kernel 2.6.3 on and will wait until kernel 2.6.5
I’ve been using MM-sources 2.6.5 kernel on Gentoo for a few days now. I have to say it’s already a very stable and reliable kernel. Congrats to the 2.6 team for delivering what was promised.
BTW, pre-empt scheduler really gives the desktop and multitasking feel
The 2.6 series is better than 2.4. I’m using since 2.6.2 and I never had troubles. The first 2.4.x kernels were problematic but these 2.6.x no.
im with andrew patches on rc3, but rather would like to see some changelogs between 2.6.5-rc3 and final release than having a freaking huge changelog between 2.6.4-2.6.5
not all amorton bits get on final so .. im wondering if its advisable to switch stable or stay on the goodness of -mm4!?
http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0404.0/0696.html
YOUR NEXT BOOK: Making profit from opensource, and programmers that contribute for free!!!
Some of you contribute for linux/opensource product and don’t ever stopped for thing in what they are doing, maybe the most stupid thing they do in their live. If you see around, you see there are company’s that are profiting from your work! Yes, yes it’s true! Look at for example, suse, redhat, mandrack, mysql, and others company’s that profit from opensource. Some of them make available to public, like for example suse, a trial version of 90 days for try the operating system, and others have a disk with a demonstration functional CD, that I couldn’t install in my hard drive, not to talk in the fact that you must pay prices like for example $99 for have a completed product.
Open source is a theory that is based especially in contributions… code that programmers give it away for company’s profit…
Think about it!
mainly alsa stuff
im going to say mm4 and wait for 2.6.6
I have no problem with companies taking Open Source work and repackaging it with whatever tools they want and selling it. Cause I have the choice not to buy their implementation. Companies like SuSE and RedHat contribute back to the kernel and other such projects like Gnome or KDE. They may keep their proprietary work but that’s their right.
Besides I don’t have to buy their implementation of free software. I can pick and compile or install what I want of a large variety of free software.
GIMP, Mozilla, Evolution, OpenOffice, Xfree, Gnome, KDE, and Linux Kernel are some of the major production level packages taht I can install without agreeing to a large EULA or paying large fees. If I decide to contribute because I feel the need to pay back the community for what it has given me free of charge, that’s my choice. You can question my integrity….. but you’ll never take my FREEDOM!!!!
And in exchange, a lot of those companies contribute things back. Several professional kernel programmers are working full-time for RedHat. SuSE and Mandrake employed programmers to work on KDE. Sun employed programmers to work on GNOME. This list goes on and on.
I don’t see the problem.
>major production level packages taht I can install without agreeing to a large EULA
There are no major level packages distributed without EULA. For every package, you must read and agree with the license supplied. In case of Linux distro, for example, you must read and agree with EULAs of all separate software packages and components included.
As a minimum, every major package excludes itself from all and any responsibilities to you.
The fact that EULA does not jump in your face does not mean it is not there or that you can ignore it.
>or paying large fees.
What is wrong with paying for software?
>but you’ll never take my FREEDOM!!!!
Wake up. You never had it in a first place.
Way to bite jbetts head off! You make all your friends this way?
He never said there was anything wrong with paying for software. And there is freedom associated with open source software.
I’ve been using MM-sources 2.6.5 kernel on Gentoo for a few days now. I have to say it’s already a very stable and reliable kernel. Congrats to the 2.6 team for delivering what was promised.
C’mon jbett, you, of all people, should know that stability isn’t about being up for a few days. I’m not claiming that 2.6 isn’t stable, I haven’t given it a real chance (last time I tried, user input was SUPER slow so I bailed), but I think it will take time before people can really claim 2.6 as being a time-tested stable kernel.
Does anyone know how suspend to disk/ram is working? I didn’t manage to get working with 2.6.4. On resume the lcd remains black.
Alsa is now working without having to hack it on Fedora 2. Don’t know if it was working on other distros already.
You have no clue as to what open source is about. Are you aware that Suse almost single handedly funds the development of the Reiser file system, that IBM funds (and helped found) the Open source Development Labs, that Sun contributed the bulk of the code for Open Office, that Ximian produced Evolution, that Mandrake contributes money to many and various open source projects to keep development going, and Apple funds the Darwin project. When this code is produced it is released for FREE. Free means do with it what you will. Any company that sells Linux is helping the Linux cause by increasing public awareness of it. Get a clue or go play with Windows instead of slandering open source.
Last time I checked this release has support for the “Prism54” wireless cards. So if you had problems before and that’s your chipset then you can try again with this kernel!