News.com is carrying an article that seems to have gone by unnoticed. Macromedia is looking into releasing Linux versions of their development tools. This will immediately make Flash development accessible. Future products will enable Linux users to program using next generation Macromedia technologies such as MXML.
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finally…now where is adobe?
they better be pretty close behind
… with 702 comments on slashdot:
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/05/0030210&mode…
Actually, I think that I saw at least a comment or something like that here in OSNews, because this and Newsforge are the only IT news sites that I read regularly and I already knew this.
Anyway, they are going to follow the same path that Corel tried and failed in the past, with buggy products running through Wine (Not meant to knock off Wine… I love it!). I wish them luck. I’d love to use Dreamweaver on Linux but Quanta is almost getting in there.
Nonetheless, it is good that they are going to perform an evaluation to determine the market demand… Who knows? Maybe they can finally port their software for Linux once and for all. 🙂
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how about giving us a Shockware plugin first!
sorry shockware = shockwave
_O_ OMFG _O_ this is the best news ever, finally a good choice in OS is getting closer
Anyone wondering what API they are using? I hope they choose GTK just because I use Gnome and i think developing flash stuff under Gnome would be pretty tasty. Anyone else wanna weigh in.
“Anyone wondering what API they are using? I hope they choose GTK just because I use Gnome and i think developing flash stuff under Gnome would be pretty tasty. Anyone else wanna weigh in”
winelib for now. they are guaging interest levels to consider releasing a native version. it will probably be qt since they have a qt license already
“how about giving us a Shockware plugin first!”
Ermmm….the plugin for shockwave has been around for a couple years now. It is installed by default as well on distro’s such as SuSE and Mandrake. It can be installed on any distro. Please research something before you say it doesn’t exist. Thanks.
Ermmm….the plugin for shockwave has been around for a couple years now. It is installed by default as well on distro’s such as SuSE and Mandrake. It can be installed on any distro. Please research something before you say it doesn’t exist. Thanks.
Please, get your fact straight. You need to do the research too.
http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/alternates/#sp
Where is Linux? I only see Flash, but no Shockwave for Linux.
“Anyone wondering what API they are using?”
They are not using any API as it stands because so far what they are doing is woking with people like codeweavers to make the Windows versions of their apps work better with Wine and Crossover office. That way they can spend little money, get their apps to work on Linux and see if anyone wants to buy them. If people really show interest in the Wine versions they they may port to Linux. If not then they have not spent much and they can still hit some linux users.
I hope that it’s not a half hearted effort.
Macromedia and Adobe apps running on Linux means about 80% of the reason to use Windows disappears. Macromedia and Adobe (IMO) produce the most polished and powerful desktop apps. This is great news.
crossover office has support for it
If they do release a suite for linux I’m willing to bet it will be x86 only as currently there isn’t even a flash plugin for Linux on PPc unless you want to fool around with QEMU. I’d like to see Macromedia realize that there’s mroe to linux than just the x86 platform.
“‘d like to see Macromedia realize that there’s mroe to linux than just the x86 platform.”
nobody has convinced them even about x86_64 yet. good luck with ppc and stuff
The major benifitary of this will be Symantec.
This article is old now, and since then I’ve never heard anything new about that matter
“Macromedia and Adobe apps running on Linux means about 80% of the reason to use Windows disappears”
But does that mean people are going to jump ship to Linux right away? I use Macromedia and Adobe applications quite extensively. Even if they were all ported to Linux, I still would see no reason for me to go to Linux for my main OS.
But does that mean people are going to jump ship to Linux right away? I use Macromedia and Adobe applications quite extensively. Even if they were all ported to Linux, I still would see no reason for me to go to Linux for my main OS.
There are a lot of us who would love to get off the M$ gravy train, but can’t because of applications. This would definitely be a step in the right direction. IMHO, this kind of thing is much more important than anything KDE or Gnome are doing. If they were to get Adobe Audition up and running in Linux, I could switch one of my two PCs over to Linux. I have no idea which distro I would use though
lol
Gnome is very nice these days so to some extent it would be nice if it was based on GTK, or perhaps even better gtkmm as that would likely speed up development.
But unfortunately GTK is not neare as mature as QT other platforms that is of interest to Macromedia and I don’t think Macromedia can afford to use platform specific toolkits. So they better chose one that works well on every platform that is of interest to them.
And then of course they may use something entirely different. But to keep development costs down it must work well on all supported platforms.
Your question really shows a problem wih the free desktop.
Why should endusers have to care about what toolkit the programmers use? They should be able to get whatever look and feel we want by applying whatever skin we prefer.
They would have more potential Linux customers for Dreamweaver or Freehand. Is it that the move towards SVG this and that on the free desktop have made them worried about flash?
I agree. I would rather see Dreamweaver on linux first, then Flash. I know html, but it’s more efficient to use Dreamweaver to make the design on your site, and later if needed you can edit the html. For example, if you need a quick fix/update, you just open your html file with a text editor and if you need to do a bigger or design related fix/update you use Dreamweaver.
When a friend of mine introduced Dreamweaver for me, I wasn’t that sure of it. I still wanted to use a text editor, but when I tried it, I learned that I saved so much time.
Am I lazy for liking Dreamweaver? No. You can try out many different designs in a very short time, and working in a wysiwyg enviorment as very important when you work mainly on the design of a web site. The underlaying functionality you can do later after you are happy with your design.
So instead of thinking about just making Flash available, they should also make Dreamweaver available for Linux.
Good question. Porting Dreamweaver and Fireworks first makes a lot more sense. I would be among the first in line to buy both. For the last five years I have been sending requests to the Macromedia Dreamweaver and Fireworks wish lists asking them to port to Linux. Never heard back once. Maybe, just maybe they are listening . . . I am not holding my breath though.
What has macromedia worried?
The Flashforlinux project, of course. Google it.
Not to mention openoffice’s flash output, or the webserver-based flash generators, etc.
And that’s only flash support. SVG is much more important, and we have tons of support for that now.
Basically, they’re too late. Flash has been and gone, as far as I’m concerned.
hahahah, THIS WAS ALL MY DOING!!
I live next door to one of the developers for macromedia and i talked to him about this like 4 months ago and i convinced him that it would be a good thing, and he took it to his boss and now this
I thought this looked familiar and checked my archives and sure enough we reported this back in March. And if you look at the date on news.com’s article. It’s from march.
http://linux.warcry.com/scripts/news/view_news.phtml?site=26&id=160…
The funny thing is how badly everyone’s jumping on this story today when it was not such a hot article back then.
Later.
I don’t give a d.mn about the toolkit they use. As long as it runs on both KDE and gnome.
Where’s Adobe ? And the rest ? Well, shouldn’t we help them?
Why not port Cocoa to Linux ? Then you have all of Mac’s apps available.
I don’t think so. You might want to look at who is on the SVG committee. Anyway Macromedia seems to be trying to get away from the “we are just a website tools company”, and more towards we can do software development. Just look at RIA’s and FLEX. There’s competition in that space from other providers ” http://www.theopensourcery.com/xmlria.htm ” (some who use Flash ” http://www.laszlosystems.com/demos/ “), and XAML from MS. The open source community has several technologies that could be brought together to form an adequate RIA, unfortunately inadequate client and tools support is going to hurt us. Sodipodi suffers from incomplete SVG support. The SVG enabled Mozilla browser suffers from the same. Were is a proper XUL development environment? Knock Macromedia, at least the tools are there and complete. Also the Flash plugin is on the majority of browsers out there.
Macromedia has released the Flash Player 7 for Linux. Unlike the previous version, this one is officially supported.