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Mac OS X Tiger Round Up
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I got the first post
Congrats Apple for another fun filled week and giving us won’t we didn’t know we wanted 
Seriously though I think the feature worth the cost of Mac OS X.4 is iChat!
10.4 will of course, be as great as the past releases (if not dramatically better). I look forward to it, but wish it wasn’t so far away — it could be up to a full year.
I think that would be 64bitness. The star of the show.
Yes, Tiger will be hot, 64bitness will be cool, but it would be even better if we could get it with a less costly iMac G5.
PowerMac G5 are very nice machine but at 2000$ US without display for the lowend model… And the iMac 20 inch G4 going for 2200$… I’m waiting for a G5 iMac.
THEN it will be nice to sing the prase of Tiger.
iChat amazed me, thanks app-pal
I think Apple has made this point time and time again. They care about profit, not marketshare. Yes the G5’s are quite expensive indeed but they sell. Apple makes lots of $$$ off them so why should they lower the price when they already sell so fast that they have a waiting list for them? (Yes I can confirm that there is a waiting list as I purchased a dual 2Ghz G5 a week ago and I was in fact on a waiting list.)
Now as for Tiger, I can hardly wait. I don’t see how it can get any better than it already is, but leave it to Apple to find a way!! The G5 I have is my first Mac and the only word I can conjure up for the effect it has on me is *Gasp*.
I thought they all died out long ago. Everyone knows that without iTunes and the iPod, that Apple would have gone belly up already. I’m surprised they bother with the computer side of things at all anymore.
uhh, then you are surrounded by idiots. 80% of apple’s revenue comes from Macs.
Apple going belly up is something that all writers and magazines say of Apple since more than 10 years ago… iTunes and iPod where not invented yet and still, Apple never died. They survied the move to the PowerPC, the move to Unix got them even more juice and people are looking at what they do.
It’s still alive and kicking. OS X is a great product. Even Microsoft Office for Mac is better than Office 2003 for Windows… But as allways, their hardware is more costly than Wintel PC. One can say that Apple hardware are of better quality, but in the end, it’s only a computer. A DELL computer will last as long and is upgradable AND cost a lot less including the LCD display.
Apple is a snoob compagnie that only cares about rich people that can buy their stuff. And they seem to be happy with that. I hope they live long and prosper. Hey, Microsoft do need Apple R&D for Longhorn!
Belly up without the iPod? Who even cares if that statement is true or not, they are alive and kicking now and there pulse seems quite strong. What is it with people these days? They only feel ‘safe’ owning the dominant product, even if it is an inferior one? Anyway, I have both PC and Mac and enjoy the strengths of both, so I guess I must just be one up on you then.
Bah, I’ve been following Apple back when Steve Jobs got back on board in 1997, it was the iMac and refocus on delivering REAL tangiable products to consumers, ensuring that R&D was being spent on real products rather than pie in the sky intellectual jerk off sessions.
The iMac was a way to kick off the company by developing a computer that looked like nothing that had been on the market before; style, functionality have become the corner stones of Apple, and they have continued to deliver.
The G5 PowerMac was the first wave of the updates, and having had a look at what Tiger has to offer, I wouldn’t be surprised if the G4 is replaced either with the G5 or Apple adopt the “system on a chip” which is being developed by the recently spun off Motorola semi-conductor subsidary, which will have scalability beyond 3Ghz.
I also use both Windows and Mac. I HAVE to use Windows at work since there are no CAD solutions on the Mac, which is a shame. Now, I may not be a burger flipper at my local McD’s, but I am also not rich. Yet I do have Macs. Two of them. I prefer OSX over Windows for many reasons. And I also foresee people ranting about Dashboard in the next couple posts. Get over it. Apple’s implementation is WAY different. Konfab’s applets reside on the desktop, and Dashboard is completely hidden until you “activate” it a F-Key. Konfab is not going to be hurt by this integration, and as already mentioned, Dashboard is in no way a new idea from Apple. Konfab was a ripoff of an old app Apple canned. Anyway, I am excited about Tiger!
I have a computer with Windows XP installed and a eMac with Mac OS X.
A quick guess: Which system have I left and which system have I swiched to?
I find it interesting (and cool) that Apple seems to be throwing their weight behind Jabber.
But one question I have is this: What market is currently being targetted by the OS X “Tiger” Servers? I see some posts on all the general email lists I am on (PostgreSQL anyway), but not too many, leading me to conclude it is a niche market. Any thoughts?
Tiger Server can act as a Primary Domain Controller for a Windows network, and the tool will migrate user and group account from an existing Windows PDC into Open Directory 2 and Samba 3.
Does the author mean a NT4 style PDC or an Active Directory Domain Controller? My guess is NT4 PDC. However, if it is a Windows 2003 Native Mode compatible Domain Controller/Global Catalog, WOW! If it is NT4 PDC, yawn. Not too many folks are running those in the Enterprise, however, I do see the benefit of creating a migration path from Windows to Mac for old, small NT4 networks.
They’re PREVIEWING MacOS 10.4 Tiger, not releasing it, supposedly. Also, their G5s are seriously due for an update, after almost a year (if you don’t count the change to the 1.8 GHz model). This would have happened sooner if IBM could produce the 90 nm chips faster, but c’est la vie…
This could also mean that Tiger will have an improved Classic layer, which will be able to run QPS without problems (yes, I know it’s unlikely…)
One nice thing is that Sun and the Mac company are working to make Java work better in Tiger
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/community/chat/JavaLive/200…
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Filip: Startup performance is better in this release, but you only achieve about 1.3.1 startup performance with 1.4.2. Is there going to be some work in the Tiger release to further speed up startup? Also, why is shared VM dropped from 1.4.2, and can we expect it in Tiger?
Ken Russell: We are planning to make more startup improvements in 1.5, but cannot provide specific details at this time. We are continuing to work with Apple Computer to develop and integrate their VM sharing code, but can make no guarantees about its future availability in Sun’s J2SE releases.
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I just hope the new Java features won’t tax the PowerPC chip too much though. Ecplise runs slow enough on my lightning fast Pentium, and even then there’s not the overhead of PDF graphics.
Go OS X!!!
I am waiting on Tiger Server. I want to use OS X instead of Linux (its just easier to use than Linux, no other reason) as the domain controller for a windows network. I hope Tiger (SAMBA, Open Directory,ACL), are up to the task. It could ruin my career if OS X fails to cut the mustard. I hate to fall back to Windows 2003, but people don’t get fired by choosing it it no matter how many times it gets infected with viruses, or crashes from antivirus scanning software et cetra. However, if I put up an OS X server, it can never crash or have a single problem. Nobody ever gets fired for choosing windows. However, I think I might take a chance with Tiger!
” I wouldn’t be surprised if the G4 is replaced either with the G5″
Well Kaiwai,
you might be interested in knowing that IBM designed the G5 since day 1 to work in a laptop form factor. They apparently can do it now, it just would violate Apple’s idea of what the PowerBook should be since it would be thicker than the 1 inch limit that they self imposed for aesthetics.
They are working aggressively on cooling techniques so that they can fit the G5 into the current PowerBook form factor (ethanol vapor cooling system). There is no doubt in my mind that we will be seeing G5 PowerBooks. It is unclear as to when that will happen, but it will happen.
The G4 is well on its way out, particularly with Tiger coming. Apple no doubt intends for everything to go 64-bit. The G5 is 64-bit, Tiger is 64-bit (those about to post that it is just memory that is 64-bit, guess again, Apple dicusses 64-bit applications on the Tiger web site). I wouldn’t be surprised if we see G5 PowerBooks and iMacs shortly after Tiger is released.
“Also, their G5s are seriously due for an update, after almost a year”
Ummm…they are selling a new 2.5 Ghz version with liquid cooling. What do you mean the G5s are due for an update? They just updated them.
You may want to look hre: http://www.apple.com/powermac/
re Anonymous (IP: 64.191.63.—)
and Anonymous (IP: 216.127.82.—)
since your posts are verbatim copies of posts on slashdot, i suggest you read the answers already provided.
re: javafreeak “Ecplise runs slow enough on my lightning fast Pentium, and even then there’s not the overhead of PDF graphics.”
if youre alluding to os x’s display system, you may find it interesting to know that starting with os 10.2 apple has been unloading what you see on screen to the GPU.. this is of course if you have a 16 meg video card or higher. or is it 32? either way.