The X.Org Foundation announced the release of an update for the X Window System, which addresses the possible security vulnerability announced on September 15, 2004. This bug affects all known versions and releases of the X Window System shipping versions of libXpm, whether from X.Org or other vendors. Slackware upgraded to it today.
Would someone do me a favor and write a quick summary of which is X.org, Freedesktop, XFree86, Xouve etc and how they all relate to each other. I’m confused all over again.
Thanks!
Yes, a comparison would help!
XFree86: an implementation of the X protocal
X.org: another implementation of the X protocal, forked from XFree86 after the license change.
Xouve: another implementation of the X protocal, forked from XFree86…no idea if its even active still.
FreeDesktop: an organization that hosts projects to improve the open-source desktop. Hosts x.org, dbus, hal, cairo, kdrive…etc
The last one is often confused with kdrive, the experimental X protocal implementation that was not even a full server/client setup, but had a lot of the new techs that are now merged into x.org. Kdrive will probably never release. Long live our x.org overlords
I’ve upgraded my Slackware box and it died. I’ll have to try it again next weekend. 😉
It’s Xouvert, NOT Xouve.
http://www.xouvert.org
>I’ve upgraded my Slackware box and it died. I’ll have to try it again next weekend
I am not sure you are being very sincere. The mirrors haven’t been updated yet and the slackware site is on isdn (up to 12 kb/sec). Besides, there is a post on the changelog that asks users to update their xorg.conf file.
Did you change to xorg.conf from “Keyboard” to “kb” ?
it’s kbd not kb
“x/x11*6.8.1-i486-1.tgz: Upgraded to X.Org’s X11R6.8.1 release.
Note that the name of the keyboard driver in the xorg.conf file has
changed from “Keyboard” to “kbd”. You’ll need to make this change in
order to start X.”
slackware rules =:D
I noticed that opengl apps, for example glxgears, became almost unresponsive after i started using xorg. Only with the nv driver though, it went away after upgrading to nvidia’s proprietary driver.
Has anyone else experienced this unrespnsiveness in mesa apps with xorg?
the nv driver doesn’t support accelerated 3D, and that goes for xfree86 as well as xorg. if you want to take advantage of an NNidia card, you’ll have to use the proprietary nvidia driver instead.
Now it is clear once again that CLI is superior to GUI. You have WAY less security holes!!!
> Now it is clear once again that CLI is superior to GUI. You have WAY less security holes!!!
LOL. Yea, no way I’m going to let someone hack into my email and read my spam. Pine 4 ever, who needs support for features. Its just makes things easyer.
“the nv driver doesn’t support accelerated 3D, and that goes for xfree86 as well as xorg.”
Yes i am aware of that but the mesa apps should still be responsive, albeit slow. That is, they should react to key presses within 5 seconds. At least they did so in the past without hardware acceleration.
If you prefer the CLI for security reasons try pen, paper and invisible ink.
The only thing you can do is update your system after a definied “wait” period. Has nothing to do with CLI / GUI because even with CLI your system can be very complex and inherently insecure (or better said too complex).
00/
It’s protocol, not protocal.
Could anyone confirm whether the binary ati drivers are still compatible with X.org?
you mentioned them with X.org in the same sentence, I don’t thank ATI knows what X.org or Xserver is (-;
Oneday they might but I will stick with Nvidia for the time being. At least their driver sdupport is good even if they screw up once in a while with hardware.
Well, the latest ati drivers work fine with X.org 6.8.0, but I agree with you that Ati should develop more independent drivers, like nVidia does.
A more accurate definition:
Organizations:
X.org: The original commercial consortium developing X. Now the group (made up in large part of former XFree86 developers) that forked XFree86 and continues to develop it.
Freedesktop.org: An umbrella group for *NIX desktop software. Their servers host the X.org mailing lists and CVS.
XFree86: The original group developing X11 on free *NIX.
Implementations:
X.org X11R6.8.1: X.org’s current X implementation. X11R6.7.0 was forked from XFree86 4.4-RC2.
XFree84 4.4: XFree86’s current X implementation, based on X.org original reference implementation source code.
Xserver: Keith Packard’s KDrive server, which is based on XFree86 DIX (device-independent) code, and his own DDX.
> I am not sure you are being very sincere. The mirrors haven’t been updated yet
Read the title. 6.8.0 and not 6.8.1. Beside I haven’t upgrade from official resp.
not really, I just don’t see the reason to single out slackware in a news segment like this.
I have no great problem with slack although I have never tried it for any great length of time, I’m fairly comfortable with my Fedora Development box. It’s the beauty of choice.
Is Linux ready for the Desktop?
Also,
Driver “keyboard”,
seems to work. (lowercase k)
Or is there some reason not to use it?
no doubt about it – it is ! period
“It’s Xouvert, NOT Xouve. ”
“It’s protocol, not protocal.”
thx…wrote that at around midnight here.
The definitions on this page are much more complete as well.
she’s the chief editor, and she uses slack. expect a bit of bias