Home > Gnome > GNOME Desktop and Developer platform 2.8.2 ReleasedGNOME Desktop and Developer platform 2.8.2 Released Eugenia Loli 2004-12-08 Gnome 28 CommentsThe GNOME Desktop and Developer platform 2.8.2 is now released. Announcement, changelog.About The Author Eugenia LoliEx-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker.Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 28 Comments 2004-12-08 10:23 pm Preliminary results for the 2004 GNOME Foundation electionshttp://gnomedesktop.org/node/2074(Alternative source hereunder.)Slashdot: GNOME Foundation Elections Results Are Inhttp://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/08/1815251 2004-12-08 10:24 pm Funny to reference /. for election results… 2004-12-08 10:58 pm Does anyone knows if the bug with gDesklets is fix in this version? 2004-12-08 11:08 pm Does anyone knows if the bug with gDesklets is fix in this version?I not sure, but I think Gdesklets is not part of the GNOME desktop and is responsability of gdesklets developers to fix its bugs. 2004-12-08 11:17 pm Is simply…… AWESOME, keep up the good work . 2004-12-08 11:18 pm >I not sure, but I think Gdesklets is not part of the GNOME desktop and is responsability of gdesklets developers to fix its bugs.You are absolutely right. However, the problem started with python 2.4. I just wanted to know if this pygtk 2.4.1 works. 2004-12-09 12:18 am Python 2.4 isn’t tested up to this point. There seems to be a problem regarding the sax parser. We’re currently investigating this.gDesklets isn’t part of GNOME core and won’t be for some time. We first don’t want gdesklets to be included in GNOME core and second there are still some issues. It has some hard dependecies and most people still have many problems with that!Maybe it’ll be part of GNOME 2.12.If not we’ll see for GNOME 3.0. 2004-12-09 12:45 am Go Gnome, Go!!Victor. 2004-12-09 12:47 am >>Maybe it’ll be part of GNOME 2.12.>>If not we’ll see for GNOME 3.0.Damnnnnnnnn. 🙂 But it is all good I guess. I really like the sensors in Gnome. Even when gnome is about simplicity, it makes the Desktop look quite good. Sometimes can look superior , to OS X( let the flame start) 🙂 2004-12-09 2:09 am I’ve used Gnome and KDE both a bit and I like aspects of both but the new screenshots of Gnome don’t look very nice at all. I usually go for functionality over looks but I think if my desktop looked anything like these screenshots it would be hard for me be productive because of the visual drawbacks. 2004-12-09 2:12 am Which ones are you referring to? 2004-12-09 2:31 am Jeff, please elaborate on the visual drawbacks in gnome. I’d really like to know. 2004-12-09 2:32 am ”I’ve used Gnome and KDE both a bit and I like aspects of both but the new screenshots of Gnome don’t look very nice at all. I usually go for functionality over looks but I think if my desktop looked anything like these screenshots it would be hard for me be productive because of the visual drawbacks.”Ever heard of themes?? Changing the background?? 2004-12-09 4:54 am I can’t disagree with what you say… my G4 workstation is right next to my Ubuntu linux box… Linux has really become pretty thanks to GNOME2 (2.8 to be specific). So clean and simple. 2004-12-09 5:16 am I didnt say anything bad about gnome. I like gnome. Somebody else talked about some ugly screenshots. I also like the simplicity of gnome. If there is something that can bo behind the OS X is gnome. Sorry for the KDE people, I also think KDE is good. No beef. 2004-12-09 5:46 am <<I didnt say anything bad about gnome.>>I don’t think he meant to say that.“I can’t disagree with what you say…”Double negative, he thinks your right. —-Anyways, big thumbs up to the Gnome-devs. Be sure to check out http://live.gnome.org/ Ohhh Gnome3 sounds like its going to be great! 2004-12-09 8:01 am So. Looks are quite subjective. I run FC3 w/ Gnome on 2.8 on my x86 box and mac os x on my iBook… I have no idea how someone could say Gnome rivals it. The only thing gnome “rivals” as far as looks are W98… Actually, it looks pretty similar to W98… It’s no XP, no Mac OS X, and it ain’t no KDE… of course, that’s just as far as looks… I’m a usability guy and that’s why gnome is my desktop of choice. 2004-12-09 8:59 am It’s clean (like MacOS X) and those Bluecurve icons are purty. I think it looks better than KDE and Windows (all versions including XP). 2004-12-09 9:43 am OMG……How can u compare the fonts……even XP cleartype fonts donts look nice 2004-12-09 12:09 pm Hehe, it’s funny. When XP came out I was really impressed by the theming, including Luna. But eventually I realised how ugly it truely is. My friends and I often laugh about how we were once thought Luna looked cool. Now we think it’s rather tasteless.KDE does impress my on some things. But not on looks! My god, that awful keramiks is still default. 2004-12-09 12:51 pm >My god, that awful keramiks is still default.Not anymore, KDE 3.4’s default style is Plastik. 2004-12-09 1:53 pm …sorry. Yes, I used a double-negative. I hope my ex-English teachers aren’t lurking! I was agreeing with you. Also, I think the fonts (at least the one’s included with and used by Ubuntu) are quite nice.Gnome 3 does look cool. I just wish they would beef up contextual menus just a but. The one feature BeOS has that I look for constantly in GNOME (because it is becoming quite a but like Tracker) is the drill down. From the contextual menus you can copy, move or create symlinks anywhere on your system by drilling down through the directory tree[s].If GNOME had that… WOW! 2004-12-09 2:11 pm “Gnome 3 does look cool.”Gnome 3? You must mean Gnome 2.10! Neither have been released yet. 2004-12-09 4:16 pm gnome has far surpassed windows XP. in fact windows 3.1 is far better looking than XP.the “graphics designers” (i use that term loosely) that designed the look and feel of XP should be blacklisted from the industry. it is truly atrocious. 2004-12-09 6:50 pm “It’s clean (like MacOS X) and those Bluecurve icons are purty. I think it looks better than KDE and Windows (all versions including XP).”I have a 1024×768 LCD screen, at that resolution I prefere reduce the size of the fonts. When you go bellow 11, fonts in linux are uglier thant windows. above that linux win.For the icon, you still have to download theme and icons to beat OSX, default are just Ok.Plus, the per icon menu option are bloat with option. Why dont use a cleaner approch like firefox or WinXP, when you put a panel on a “configuration” mode, everything become free to move, drag, remove or add. These menu sould only show ‘properties’ and some options relate to the object(like those with stikies). I hate this when I have to uncheck/check the’lock’ option every time.The other thing that is not clean, is the sound proporties. Is there a way to put it in simple mode?? When open with it’s 100 sound options, it seems like only a professional sound technicien can understand it.But still, Gnome is my best desktop on linux and I really appreciated fast upgrade and corection.Nice job 2004-12-10 12:15 am Don’t always listen to your English teachers . I’d say you used the double negative correctly – you CAN use double negatives correctly in English, to give a slightly different meaning from just using a straight positive. ‘I can’t disagree’ is slightly more tentative than ‘I agree’ – on reading ‘I can’t disagree with what you said’, you’d expect it to be followed by something like ‘but’ or ‘even though’. On reading ‘I agree with what you said’ you’d expect it either to just stand on its own or be followed by something reinforcing. The double negative is fine, when you use it properly! 2004-12-10 12:18 am Well that’s a bit general – font rendering is a very imprecise area and can be configured in many different ways. What hinter are you using? What version of freetype? Is subpixel hinting enabled? If so, is it properly configured? How does your distribution configure fontconfig to deal with small font sizes?These are all issues that could be completely different on different systems. You can’t really say ‘Linux’s fonts are…’ 2004-12-10 1:15 am I was referring to the screenshots up at http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/marketing/en/2004/two-eight-sc…My complaints I guess are subjective reactions to these screenshots. If I had to pick out particular features I would say that everything looks flat. I don’t see good use of compositional style where colors and shades are used to give perspective and give visual cues that guid the user. Another thing is that there doesn’t seem to be a clear distinction between active elements from these screenshots. For this reason I really like the mockups for Haiku OS but most Gnome screenshots are not impressing me.I do like the emphasis on simplicity in gnome and I like some of the icons I see but many of the window styles look real ugly in my opnion.