Home > OS News > Guest PC Emulator for Mac OS X Available Guest PC Emulator for Mac OS X Available Submitted by swpspce 2005-02-04 OS News 23 Comments LismoreSystems released today their x86 emulator for PPC. Prices start at $69. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 23 Comments 2005-02-04 1:10 am A front-end to the already free Qemu? 2005-02-04 1:16 am No, read the older story on the same subject. 2005-02-04 1:16 am Lismore did offer an x86 emmulator for Classic Mac OS. It was OK. I doubt that this is a front-end for Qemu since Lismore has been in emmulation for a long time now. 2005-02-04 1:30 am Has anyone done a comparison with this and virtual PC? $69 is not to bad. 2005-02-04 1:49 am I’d like to see a review and benchmark of VPC 7.0, iEmulator and this new Guest PC. http://www.iemulator.com/ Price: $23.95 2005-02-04 1:55 am iEmulator is nothing but QEMU with a branding name. Nothing new there. In my experience, VPC has the best performance/stability around. It costs more, but it pays out by delivering what it’s promising. 2005-02-04 2:15 am Did anyone read those besides me? What kid comes up to his father and asks “Daddy, what is Windows 3.1?” There are real reasons to want to emulate Windows, besides wanting to know what Windows 3.1 is. 2005-02-04 2:44 am It looks like a hoax to me. 2005-02-04 2:56 am This isn’t a hoax. Lismore has delivered an emulation product before (http://www.macwindows.com/lismore2.html) called Blue Label Power Emulator. It wasn’t the greatest product, but it worked and performed decently against VirtualPC. VPC was definitely the superior product, but it was real and it wasn’t just something terrible thrown at the market. 2005-02-04 4:35 am Y’all are way too quick to jump to conclusions and think that it’s fake. Please calm down and research things first rather then screaming fake the second a new emulator for <system of choice> is released. 2005-02-04 4:54 am I wanna see how it runs on a stock mac mini or if you need a 5k dual g5 setup to run it 2005-02-04 11:54 am just grab mplayer OS X 2 for MAC, you don’t need wmp 2005-02-04 1:06 pm You don’t need mplayer you can use Windows media player for mac from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=w… Can you believe its called WINDOWS Media player for mac? 2005-02-04 1:18 pm I got it on Wednesday night, and have been playing with it a little bit. I’ll know more tomorrow when I get more time. It’s DEFINITELY not a hoax. It works. I have nothing but anecdotal data, that says it’s a bit slower than VPC. It’s a 1.0 release, and a major accomplishment for Lismore. As with Blue Label, they will continue to improve it as time goes on. I’ll know more by Saturday evening. I left it installing Windows XP Pro when I went to bed last night, using the automatic install feature. It’s installing Windows without me having to intervene. 2005-02-04 2:02 pm Why do you bother to post such off-topic trolls? If you don’t want to run Windows or ANY Microsoft software on your system. Then, don’t! How does your post contribute to this topic? How is it relevant to GuestPC? Ranting against Microsoft is Fan-Boy Cool, but just not valuable. Microsoft is less than perfect. Windows is less than perfect. Apple is less than perfect. The ENTIRE PLANET is less than perfect. Get over it… And get over yourself. Saying you don’t want Microsoft software on your computer does not make you seem cool or smart. Just kinda silly… 2005-02-04 2:13 pm I installed it yesterday on my 17″ iMac G4 with 512mb of ram. So right off the bat I installed Windows 2000 Advanced Server and SQL Server 2000. The install of Windows took a LOOOONG time, but it seems to run reasonably well given that it is emulation and the specs of my Mac. The most noticable issue is the amount of disk swapping that is going on; however, the VM is set to 256mb of ram (very low for Windows 2000) out of a pool of 512mb of physical memory that OSX must contend for. I would really like to see how it runs on a G5 with a couple gb of memory installed. I also istalled MS-DOS 6.22 and it is quite snappy playing privateer. 2005-02-04 2:39 pm So don’t run it. This is an emulation product designed to allow you to run Windows applications on MacOSX. This thread isn’t a chance to bash Windows like you have taken the opportunity to do, it’s a chance to talk about the emulator in question. Now, on to more important matters … why don’t these people offer a demo of their emulator? They’re not going to get any business (especially mine) if nobody can try their product to see how well it stacks up to the other options available. 2005-02-04 2:49 pm “why don’t these people offer a demo of their emulator?” Probably because it’s not needed. There will be plenty of reviews. Remember, this is a small company. The costs to develop a Demo version will be huge in comparison to the small volume they will sell of the product. It’s better to lose a few hundred sales because some people want something for free, and are going to throw a tantrum because they can’t get it… AND… People have this annoying tendency to hack demos and make them full versions. If you need a demo to decide to buy it, you probably don’t need it. You can use BOCHS or one of the other freeware x86 emulators. If you want a PC emulator with good features at a lower cost than the Microsoft product, AND you want to support a small software developer that’s putting their heart and soul into this… You’ll buy it. For people upgrading from Blue Label, this is a GREAT deal! Perhaps they’ll even offer an upgrade price for SoftWindows/SoftPC and Connectix Virtual PC owners? Even $10.00 off the retail price would be great! 2005-02-04 2:51 pm The system I’m running this on currently is a G4 500mhz with 512mb of RAM. The performance is nothing to write home about. But, that’s because I have an older, slower system. While plenty fast for native MacOS X apps, it’s underpowered to emulate modern Windows systems which need every CPU Cycle they can hog… I expect it will work much better on the Mac Mini I’m about to buy. 2005-02-04 3:06 pm “This isn’t a hoax. Lismore has delivered an emulation product before (http://www.macwindows.com/lismore2.html) called Blue Label Power Emulator. It wasn’t the greatest product, but it worked and performed decently against VirtualPC. VPC was definitely the superior product, but it was real and it wasn’t just something terrible thrown at the market.” Yes, this is not likely a hoax. As others have pointed out, they have produced and sold an earlier emulator under the name Bluelabel. The only qualm that I have with the other comments is the performance of Bluelabel: contrary to other posters views, it was dog slow, perhaps little better than qemu. iEmulator: ah yes, from that most “reputable” company… 2005-02-04 3:12 pm “You don’t need mplayer you can use Windows media player for mac from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=w….. Can you believe its called WINDOWS Media player for mac?” MS ough to be ashamed at this partcular item, like bluelabel it is dog slow. You’re better off with mplayer or vlc, both are, nearly, infinitely faster. ‘nother note on emulators: I own both bluelabel & VPC. VPC is MUCH faster than bluelabel, which is much faster than qemu, which is much faster than bochs. i.e. While it is true that there are OSS x86 emulators, they just aren’t all that speedy, and if you use the emulator so infrequently that you can live with the slow speed, why not just keep an old x86 around to run those apps when needed. Also, I KNOW that if there are any gamers, you’ve got a fairly decent PC already, which is true in my case, such that I can play all those good games(halflife, Morrowind, halflife2, etc) that NEVER will be on the mac. 2005-02-04 7:23 pm Definitely not another Cherry OS. PearPC/CherryOS is a PowerPC emulator for x86 Linux and Windows. This is an x86 emulator for Mac OS X. -G 2005-02-10 7:11 pm Guest PC is more like VPC. The interface is nearly the same. It’s faster than both VPC and QemuX… Go for it!