Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 28th Jul 2006 18:28 UTC
.NET (dotGNU too) Microsoft is leaving Java in the dust, but the company still has room to grow in the developer arena, a key executive said. Speaking at the Microsoft FAM (Financial Analyst Meeting) on July 27 in Redmond, Wash., Bob Muglia, Microsoft's senior vice president of Server and Tools business, said Microsoft's .Net platform has outpaced Java, particularly the Java Enterprise Edition, over the past five years to become the development platform of choice for enterprise development.
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RE: Swing's perception is BAD
by JeffS on Fri 28th Jul 2006 23:32 UTC in reply to "Swing's perception is BAD"
JeffS
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2005-07-12

"Swing apps still feel disgusting, the looks, the font rendering

How Swing apps feel is subjective, of course.

But for the most part, I have to strongly disagree with you (except for the font rendering part - Swing still does not do anti aliasing well).

Just look at really nice looking/performing Swing based apps like NetBeans, JAlbum, JDiskReport, and SQL Developer (all free). They look and feel very very good, IMHO.

Now, that said, the font problem is still there (especially with LCD screens). And the default "Metal" theme either needs to be improved further (it has been improved a little), or it has to be replaced by a theme done by the best graphic designers.

But then there is Eclipse RCP / SWT/JFace. SWT is essentiall Java wrapper classes around native libraries. Eclipse RCP, which uses SWT and the Eclipse core and plugin library to produce beautiful, fast, native looking GUI apps, is really excellent, IMHO.
Some examples include Eclipse itself, RSSOwl, Azureus, Eclipse Trader, Adobe/Macromedia Flex Builder, BEA WebLogic Workshop, RadRails, and many many others. Eclipse RCP is really taking off.

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RE[2]: Swing's perception is BAD
by devtty on Fri 28th Jul 2006 23:54 in reply to "RE: Swing's perception is BAD"
devtty Member since:
2006-04-02

"How Swing apps feel is subjective, of course. "

I totally agree and there is no denying that Java/Swing developers put in huge amount of efforts and I salute their endeavor.

That said, in the real world and sometimes

Perception IS reality

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