Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 30th Aug 2006 17:05 UTC, submitted by jcpinto
Linspire Starting today, Linspire does not only offer a free OS, but also its CNR Basic service. " Linspire, Inc., developer of the commercial desktop Linux operating system of the same name and Freespire, the free community desktop Linux operating system, announced the immediate change in pricing for its popular CNR Service from an annual subscription fee based offering to a completely free service." CEO Carmony said: "We're thrilled to now be in a position to offer this excellent service to desktop Linux users absolutely free. CNR really makes using desktop Linux easy, and we want everyone to have access to this quality service."
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A good start, I guess...
by Gullible Jones on Wed 30th Aug 2006 18:38 UTC
Gullible Jones
Member since:
2006-05-23

Now if they would just get rid of the desktop-as-root-by-default garbage, I might start to take this distro somewhat seriously.

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RE: A good start, I guess...
by KevinCarmony on Wed 30th Aug 2006 18:42 in reply to "A good start, I guess..."
KevinCarmony Member since:
2006-07-17

Now if they would just get rid of the desktop-as-root-by-default garbage, I might start to take this distro somewhat seriously.

Someone needs to get out more. That is some seriously outdated FUD. That went bye bye long ago.

Can someone please get this gentleman some fresh FUD? =)

Kevin

Edited 2006-08-30 18:43

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deanlinkous Member since:
2006-06-19

Why not just say that freespire has corrected this situation and it is a priority to make sure that users do not run as root by default and that everything works so that no users would need to run as root. Face it, Linspire has had problems in the past with either running as root and/or things not running correctly without being root.

I think the way you handle stuff like this does nothing but detract from *spire in general. In fact, your denial of problems and spiteful responses to anyone bringing up issues is one of the biggest things that makes me dislike linspire and now freespire.

I guess it is also fud that you have old outdated packages in the CNR warehouse? That some of those packages are considered to be security risks by other distros and yet linspire has determined them to not be a issue.

Edited 2006-08-30 19:12

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alcibiades Member since:
2005-10-12

Kevin, thank you for taking the time to reply. Its wise, and its generous too.

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John Blink Member since:
2005-10-11

I would. But bandwidth costs time and money. :b

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egon_spengler Member since:
2005-11-20

Uh, yeah, RIIIIGGHT. In Linspire, in all versions up to and including the new wonderweapon V2 release, if the user does NOT take any action to create a user, WHAT ARE they running as? Umm, ROOT maybe? Let's see, no other action taken (default), account used (root), sounds like desktop-as-root-by-default to me. Now, Freespire did a marvelous Ubuntu-take on the situation, and makes the first user created an entry in the sudoers file to allow for system maintenance, and the holdovers from Linspire need to be tweaked a bit to get around the bumps.

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Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06

"Can someone please get this gentleman some fresh FUD?"

I couldn't agree more. To everybody who feels like him, take a look at kdmrc:

http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kdm/kdm-files.html

Quote:

[AllowRootLogin

If disabled, do not allow root (and any other user with UID = 0) to log in directly.

The default is “true”.]

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still crippled for two reasons
by roger64 on Thu 31st Aug 2006 06:41 in reply to "RE: A good start, I guess..."
roger64 Member since:
2006-08-15

- because CNR will only be available to Freespire users later in the year and not NOW . They will need to wait for the OSS version of CNR.

- because even when this future -free- CNR will be available, only people using CNR gold service (50 dollars a year) will receive software update notifications and free OS updates.

Still crippled, dear.

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RE: A good start, I guess...
by jcpinto on Wed 30th Aug 2006 19:00 in reply to "A good start, I guess..."
jcpinto Member since:
2006-08-30

Not only it's not the default, as you need to activate root if you want it ;)

http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Creating_a_Root_Login_Account

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