Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 18th Oct 2006 21:54 UTC
Slackware, Slax Slackware Linux 11 was released at the beginning of this month, which marks 13 years of continued development. Slackware Linux, while not the first Linux distribution, is the oldest surviving one, and is starting to show signs of aging. The first version of Slackware Linux was released on July 16, 1993, by Patrick Volkerding. More here.
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Well
by Xaero_Vincent on Thu 19th Oct 2006 05:14 UTC
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2006-08-18

Perhaps hardcore Unix geeks appreciate Slackware's long tradition of being the most primitive distribution, but 99% of the rest of the world just wants their computers to work. Yet with Slackware, it is the user who ends up working; not the computer.

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RE: Well
by garymax on Thu 19th Oct 2006 06:12 in reply to "Well"
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2006-01-23

Ahh...there's the rub. People who want a ready-made system like a distro that "just works" and allows them to be immediately productive.

But they end up paying in the long run. With more developmental overhead there is software bloat and a propensity towards more bugs. These are the first people who cry loud and long about the faulty patch their favorite distro provider sent them.

Slackware allows me and others who use it the ability to clean house ourselves and to ensure an airtight system.

You work more, but frankly, I'm loving it.

And it isn't work for work's sake; everything I learn and take to the keyboard results in a more secure and speedier system.

As someone once said, I'd rather spend a few days tweaking Slackware and then having a rock-solid, stable distro then constantly working through bugs and instability on other systems.

I switched to Slackware in September from Ubuntu and I am not going back. The whole system feels faster and a lot more stable and secure.

Hats off to Pat V and the Slackware development team for a job well done.

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RE: Well
by VenomousGecko on Thu 19th Oct 2006 13:10 in reply to "Well"
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2005-07-06

I think the most important thing to remember here is that for those that want a "just works" (whatever that really means, because Slackware just works on my end) they have many options.

The beauty of Linux distributions is that they can each fill a niche and the users in that niche are happier than if they are forced to use a one size fits all. Slackware strives to remove all of the fluff and bloat from using Linux distros, stripping it down to the essentials but providing an extremely powerful system for creating the system you want to use. Its ability to get out of your way and let you learn the system and how it works can not be undervalued. It provides users who are truly interested in how a system works a way to learn and enhance their skills.

I hope it never strays from that goal. You don't get to be on of the oldest distributions by not knowing how to make your users happy.

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RE: Well
by situation on Thu 19th Oct 2006 15:40 in reply to "Well"
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2006-01-10

I think the amount of work levels out in the end (depending on how long you plan on using Linux). Slackware has a lot of "up front" pain / time / effort to get everything customized as needed (this can vary depending on how deep you want to get with the customization). But once setup in this way, a user can just keep upgrading their existing install without any problems.
Now for the "just work" type of users (that you seem to think everyone is), they technically get an easier initial setup (since guis are easier, right :/ ). But in the long run there will be upgrade conflicts, reinstalls, etc. Try maintaining a Red Hat install from version 4. Now try the same with Slackware from version 8 to current.
This is broad of course, but good to keep in mind. Plus I think that the "full" install of Slackware does just as good a job at letting people "just work" right off the bat. Since it sounds like you haven't tried Slackware recently, you probably didn't know that.

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Simple and Uncluttered, Not Primitive
by enloop on Thu 19th Oct 2006 20:21 in reply to "Well"
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2005-11-13

Slackware is simply, not primitve.

If ideological reasons drove you to Linux, or if you just like the idea of not paying for sotware, then what you are really looking for is a clone of Windows.

But, if you use Linux because you know and like Unix, then Slackware is the way to go. If I remember, that's why Torvald's started that little project in the first place.

All the handholding, dependency resolving, GUI-fied junk that clutters up other distributrions just gets in the way. I suppose it is necessary if you don't know what kind of video card you own, or the refresh rate of your display, or are clueless about your network card. But, if you do know those things, and have enough wit about you to follow instructions. Slackware is for you.

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