Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Feb 2007 09:52 UTC, submitted by anonymous
KDE In the transition from KDE 3 to KDE 4, a new file manager, Dolphin, was often discussed and now officially moved to the base part of KDE. "I just stumbled over this message saying that the file manager Dolphin is now part of kdebase (of KDE 4): 'Moving Dolphin to kdebase, as discussed with Peter and others. The big plan is: Dolphin will become the default file manager (kicker buttons and file:/ links bring it up).' The question remains what now happens with Konqueror - keep in mind that one of the goals of KDE 4 was to only keep one app for each task inside the base packages. But with Dolphin as the potentially new file manager and Webkit as the new browser we may see Konqueror vanish."
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RE[3]: What the hell?
by lindkvis on Tue 20th Feb 2007 15:38 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What the hell?"
lindkvis
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2006-11-21

"I find using the "UP" bottom much more useful than needing to use the location bar.

When you sitting in your reclining chair with you feet up, any need to lean forward to use the keyboard instead of the mouse is not preferred."

That has to be the weakest reason for including another button in the user interface, ever. The location button bar does everything the UP button can do and more. Both achieve the same functionality in the same amount of mouse clicks and the button bar can go several UP's in one go, in addition to making the file hierarchy more obvious to the user.

If you friviously add buttons to the interface without considering whether or not they are necessary, you will have far too many buttons in the end.

Your speech recognition argument is also pretty weak, as you can easily still have the UP command available for the user even if the button isn't on the toolbar.

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RE[4]: What the hell?
by Headrush on Tue 20th Feb 2007 17:24 in reply to "RE[3]: What the hell?"
Headrush Member since:
2006-01-03

lindkvis, don't take things so seriously.

Obviously the feet up comment was a joke.

The point was not that the location bar can't navigate up, it was it wasn't as easy. If you navigate a lot through FTP directories "Up" is invaluable. I'm sorry, but if you think selecting part of the address and hitting deleting on the last directory is as easy, you are wrong. Now if konqueror adapts the url that Dolphin is to have, and I have seem patches to konqueror, so you can click individual directories that are part of the URL in the location bar, that would be work and would be a great replacement that doesn't remove the same functionality.

And your 100% wrong with the speech recognition I am using. You have to have a visual widget for it to work.

You also jumped to the conclusion about adding frivious buttons. Although you might not use it, some of use were just stating we use it a lot. Maybe more people use it than you assume. If the method I mentioned above was implemented, everyone would be happy.

If konqueror removed the last five buttons by default, the konqueror interface would be just as slim and clean as all the other browsers. (Remove print, find, enlarge, shrink, security)

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RE[5]: What the hell?
by lindkvis on Wed 21st Feb 2007 09:25 in reply to "RE[4]: What the hell?"
lindkvis Member since:
2006-11-21

"I'm sorry, but if you think selecting part of the address and hitting deleting on the last directory is as easy, you are wrong. Now if konqueror adapts the url that Dolphin is to have, and I have seem patches to konqueror, so you can click individual directories that are part of the URL in the location bar, that would be work and would be a great replacement that doesn't remove the same functionality. "

I think you will find that this is EXACTLY what Dolphin offers. Look at the screenshots for the location button bar.

You don't do any selection or deleting, you simply click the button representing the parent directory (or the grand parent, or the great grand parent). It has all the functionality of the UP button with the same amount of clicks, but in addition it allows you to go up more than one directory in one go.

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