Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Jun 2007 11:50 UTC, submitted by Michael
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "There's a problem with Solaris and Sun knows it. The installation experience of Solaris (along with other areas) could be greatly improved. The installer doesn't 'suck' as it's easy and known to Solaris administrators, but for a Linux or Windows user it could prove to be a bit challenging. For those of you that have never tried out Solaris, what we've decided to do is to show you this 'usability gap' with the installation process in Solaris compared to Linux. Is the experience really that bad?"
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RE: useful ?....
by jmansion on Tue 26th Jun 2007 13:40 UTC in reply to "useful ?...."
jmansion
Member since:
2006-02-20

As someone who recently had a gripe about the installation experience of b64a, I disagree.

Sun presumably wants to increase the community of people who have tried Solaris, to avoid slipping further into the 'mindset mire' of UNIX==Linux in the perception of the masses.

To do this, they give us SXCE and SXDE to play with - but that's next to useless if you have to be an experienced Solaris admin to install the darn things.

As it happens, I tried b66 last night and it was much better on my setup than b64a, though it was slightly confusing in the way it initially presented disks and partitions that were already there. And I still needed to manually resize the slices to get a decent headroom in /. And the installation was slow.

It does need improvement, simply so that anyone with a spare partition can give it a go without having a negative first impression - which *will* count. Once its installed, its pretty nice after all, and shows off NetBeans/Studio/StarOffice well enough in a workstation setting.

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RE[2]: useful ?....
by gpierce on Tue 26th Jun 2007 16:08 in reply to "RE: useful ?...."
gpierce Member since:
2005-07-07

Agreed. Sun is trying to find a wider a audience/user base for Solaris. Their installer is OK, but still very rudimentary. This may well be because their customer base has traditionally been UNIX users/administrators and likely previous customers who are well versed with their installer.

It may interest your readers to know that even their pre-installed Solaris can be problematic. I bought a Sun Ultra 40 (AMD) machine from Sun two months ago. First, upon turning on the machine, I get an error that no os was found. I check the bios and I realize it is set to boot from USB only. Then the installer hangs after a prompt for a hostname! This was on a machine with Solaris pre-installed! I have tried a number of Linux distros as well as 64-bit Vista and I am pretty sure it was not a hardware issue.

Solaris has a great reputation which is probably deserved, but for someone who is a mere tinkerer, it can be something of a challenge to install. Had I been more determined I probably could have succeeded, but other than the novelty of running Solaris I didn't know of any benefit for an ordinary user-hobbyist.

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RE[3]: useful ?....
by psychicist on Tue 26th Jun 2007 16:29 in reply to "RE[2]: useful ?...."
psychicist Member since:
2007-01-27

It's a little annoying that released versions of Solaris are not as good as you'd like even on their own hardware. I have had better experiences with Solaris Express (Nevada) builds, which installed flawlessly even when Solaris 10u3 wouldn't install.

So I'm confident that at the time Solaris 11 is released, probably later this year, hardware support will have improved tremendously. Free operating systems are getting better all the time in contrast with closed ones, which sometimes regress a lot both in stability and hardware support (Vista).

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