Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 12th May 2008 20:35 UTC, submitted by diegocg
X11, Window Managers The X Windowing System is the graphical backbone of most UNIX-like operating systems (and OpenVMS) - despite lots and lots of criticism, the system has withstood the test of time. Despite its age, development on X has not slowed down - in fact, it only seems to have picked up. A few weeks ago, we had kernel-based mode setting, and today we have the X server running as user instead of root.
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Old news...
by BSDfan on Mon 12th May 2008 21:33 UTC
BSDfan
Member since:
2007-03-14

OpenBSD has had Xorg privsep for years, wake up and smell the truth.

BSD > You.

End of discussion.

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RE: Old news...
by hobgoblin on Mon 12th May 2008 21:42 in reply to "Old news..."
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

not quite the same but still, thanks for the heads up.

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RE: Old news...
by sbergman27 on Mon 12th May 2008 21:43 in reply to "Old news..."
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

OpenBSD has had Xorg privsep for years, wake up and smell the truth.
BSD > You.
End of discussion.

No, BSDfan. Not "End of discussion". Until we in the POSIX domain recognize the fallacy of treating each other as enemies rather than as allies it will never be "end of discussion". You wake up, look at the reality, and (please) start being nice. We will all be better off for it.

Edited 2008-05-12 21:50 UTC

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RE: Old news...
by siride on Mon 12th May 2008 22:10 in reply to "Old news..."
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

Sounds like a hack around a design flaw in X, rather than a real solution. What Dave Airlie has done is a real solution based on a solid re-architecting of how X works.

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RE[2]: Old news...
by oxygene on Tue 13th May 2008 08:34 in reply to "RE: Old news..."
oxygene Member since:
2005-07-07

we had that in 1998 - it was called KGI (together with GGI and XGGI, which provided the X server). just that back then the linux crowd was too ignorant to merge it.

So, finally the design has the acceptance it deserves.

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RE: Old news...
by Rahul on Mon 12th May 2008 22:40 in reply to "Old news..."
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

Privilege separation is good. We do that all the time with various technologies even in X (SELinux, PolicyKit, D-Bus etc) but the real problem here is the underlying software itself has security risks because of the architecture. A fundamental change is needed and that is what is happening now. Some Unix system or distributions papering over the real problem and playing in a sandbox does not really solve it for the rest of the world.

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