Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Jun 2009 09:34 UTC
Fedora Core Today, Fedora 11 will be unleashed upon the web. The release has been postponed for a few days, but this time it's for real. It comes packed with lots of changes, such as improved boot time, Nouveau as the default NVIDIA driver, and of course the latest and greatest version of various open source packages.
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stickster
Member since:
2008-10-02

1. Firefox 3.5 beta 4 is the version in F11.

2. Fedora has not dropped mono at this time. We are substituting Gnote for Tomboy in F12 for several reasons including concerns about the size a native C++ app could save us on an already very cramped Live image.

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jackson Member since:
2005-06-29

On Mono, I thought I saw that Mono and Mono apps were going to be removed from the default installation media for Fedora 12. Yes, Mono and Mono apps will probably always be available in the repos, but removing Mono and Mono apps from a default install would be a good thing.

Edited 2009-06-09 15:03 UTC

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stickster Member since:
2008-10-02

I think that Tomboy is the only app on the default install or Live environment requiring Mono, so there would be no need to include those libs by default after Gnote is substituted. Having said that, "Removing Mono from Fedora" is a misleading blurb because, as you say, for now it's still in the repos. There are some significant legal concerns with Mono that we are still assessing, so I consider that a fluid situation.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

1. Firefox 3.5 beta 4 is the version in F11.


Precisely. The "Read more" text on OSNews for this article originally claimed Firefox 3.1, not Fedora.

2. Fedora has not dropped mono at this time. We are substituting Gnote for Tomboy in F12 for several reasons including concerns about the size a native C++ app could save us on an already very cramped Live image.


One would only get any savings by substituting Gnote for Tomboy if one also dropped Mono libraries that Tomboy depends upon.

Since Gnote is the functional equivalent of Tomboy, the only benefits of doing this at all is the removal of the waste of space and potential liability that is Mono.

Surely Fedora realises that some of the features that the Mono project advertises itself as including, to whit:

http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
Microsoft Compatible API
Run ASP.NET, ADO.NET, and Windows.Forms 2.0 applications without recompilation


are patented, proprietary technologies (that are not standards, and are not covered by any Open Specification Promise) which require a license to run and to redistribute?

Edited 2009-06-09 15:31 UTC

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zlynx Member since:
2005-07-20

If you begin to worry about Microsoft and patents, then worry about more than Mono.

MS has patents that can be stretched to cover many Web technologies, compiler techniques and others. I believe they even have some good ones on OS technologies like virtual memory management and scheduling.

And anyone worrying about patents should certainly push to remove VFAT support.

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