Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Aug 2009 17:41 UTC, submitted by David Brunet
Benchmarks With OSNews really diving into the world of the Amiga as of late, with a review of AmigaOS 4.1 on ACube's sam440ep and an upcoming review of MorphOS 2.3 on an Efika, it was kind of coincidental that we have a set of benchmarks comparing MorphOS 2.3 and AmigaOS 4.1 to one another, both running on the Pegasos II machine.
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RE: The future of Amiga
by timofonic on Tue 11th Aug 2009 18:26 UTC in reply to "The future of Amiga"
timofonic
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2006-01-26

Wrong, it's AROS or Anubis. Most of that benchmark relies on legacy or multiplatform, and the speed compared to the latest actually available hardware is beyond ridicule.

You are biased because being a long time MorphOS user (I did read your comments on MorphZone in the past), but that's not easy to explain now. MorphOs is nicely optimized, but it needs a lot more than just that (like support alive platforms).

I hope MorphOS chooses the right direction, computing is starting to become boring and it needs a revolution like in the 80s and early 90s.

MorphOS being closed source is making it very hard to progress.

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RE[2]: The future of Amiga
by ferrels on Tue 11th Aug 2009 18:49 in reply to "RE: The future of Amiga"
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2006-08-15

I think I'll have to agree with you. MorphOS and OS4 both rely on a dead hardware platform. The future, for better or worse, is some form of Intel processor. The latest multi-core PPC chips are just too expensive to be the next step in Amiga evolution.

Some have said that ARM is the future and I hope they're wrong. ARM is too much of a niche market and the Amiga community has gotten so accustomed to being a niche, that it seems they keep looking for new niches instead of going with solutions that have broader, brighter futures.

It looks as if AROS will be the winner if Hyperion and the MorphOS crew don't wake up. AROS has matured quite a bit and soon it will have a more robust API that will rival OS4 and will most likely be compatible at the API level with OS4.

Edited 2009-08-11 18:50 UTC

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RE[3]: The future of Amiga
by madcrow on Tue 11th Aug 2009 19:51 in reply to "RE[2]: The future of Amiga"
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2006-03-13

I'm surprised at just how much faster Morphos is. For those who don't read French, here's a quick summary: Morphos outperforms AmigaOS 4.1 on most tests by 50 to 100 percent. The only test AmigaOS manages to win is disk performance and it only wins it by a tiny amount. In general these performance benefits hold across both PPC native code and emulated 68K code. Given that Morphos performs so much better than AmigaOS and is encumbered by none of the legal battles which engulf OS 4.x, I think the conclusion that Morphos is the future of PPC-based Amiga is a safe one to make.

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RE[3]: The future of Amiga
by NicePics13 on Tue 11th Aug 2009 22:35 in reply to "RE[2]: The future of Amiga"
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2009-06-08

Mass market appeal. Just see what that did to gaming.. Anyways, x86ers have AROS.

Edited 2009-08-11 22:43 UTC

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RE[3]: The future of Amiga
by bert64 on Wed 12th Aug 2009 17:19 in reply to "RE[2]: The future of Amiga"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

PPC isn't necessarily dead, but it's relegated to niche platforms, mostly games consoles...

A modified console with keyboard/mouse plus possibility to use it with a TV would be good, that's how the Amiga took off in the first place - plays games so the kids want it, has keyboard/mouse and can do real educational stuff too so the parents will buy it.

ARM is probably also a good choice, low power processors will benefit from a lightweight OS like amigaos.

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RE[2]: The future of Amiga
by Cymro on Wed 12th Aug 2009 10:22 in reply to "RE: The future of Amiga"
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2005-07-07

Only an Amiga user would say computing needs a "revolution"

Has the internet really been that boring for you in the past 9 years? It just gets better and better for me.

Then look at what you can do with the latest generation of phones and tell me computing is boring. People are developing original apps for 3 or 4 phone platforms that use GPS, multitouch, accelerometer, compass and camera that hook up to the internet on wireless or 3G. The iPhone alone has a breadth and variety of games that takes me back to £1.99 budget games on 8-bit to the most original of Amiga titles.

On the desktop, sync everything up to the net and access it from your phone or computer at work, you can stream endless music with Spotify, edit video and record music without a Video Toaster, video chat with people the other side of the world, and it's all free.

I'm having a blast, but you stick to the Amigan mantra "Remember when computing was fun?" if you like.

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RE[3]: The future of Amiga
by timofonic on Wed 12th Aug 2009 15:44 in reply to "RE[2]: The future of Amiga"
timofonic Member since:
2006-01-26

I'm actually a GNU/Linux user (Archlinux specifically).

I never have been an "amigan", just discovered it in late 90s and liked many things of it. It can be considered as "retro" by that time, anyway it's a platform with people obsessed in making it alive even if losing too much fuel lately.

Most that you consider it so funny is nothing more than gimmicks or toys.

What's so interesting about multitouch? It's an interesting feature for some stuff, but not much more. Same as accelerometer and camera. GPS is nice to being widespreaded, but existed long time ago.

About games on iPhone, I totally disagree with you. Most games are showelware crap, clones or selling retro again (iPhSoft uses ScummVM so they do too few programming effort rather than disabling parts of it and some minimal changes). Apple is not so good at App Store politics and the platform is not so open, unless you jailbreak it and use alternatives like Cydia. I prefer open platforms by default instead, able to install mhatever you want without DRM or other restrictions.

It's free as in beer or food, but not always as in freedom. Spotify is another server-based platform, most videochat are propietary protocols. The syncing stuff is not so transparent unless you use certain platforms, but I have my own geeky method so not care of it. About video editing, it's OK but most appss are slow as hell or quite bad.

There are good things, but most of them make you to be attached to certain platform or corporation. They are not so impressive, just lots of hype that gets forgotten when the next "cool stuff" happens.

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RE[2]: The future of Amiga
by Soulbender on Wed 12th Aug 2009 10:58 in reply to "RE: The future of Amiga"
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2005-08-18

MorphOS being closed source is making it very hard to progress.


So was the Amiga but maybe that explains why it died.

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RE[3]: The future of Amiga
by Cymro on Thu 13th Aug 2009 10:08 in reply to "RE[2]: The future of Amiga"
Cymro Member since:
2005-07-07

"MorphOS being closed source is making it very hard to progress.


So was the Amiga but maybe that explains why it died.
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That's revisionism based on the situation in 2009. Reading up on Commodore's appalling mismanagement will divest you of that theory!

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