Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th Sep 2005 11:17 UTC
Internet & Networking At PrepCom3, a dramatic last-minute deal drawn up by the EU may mark the end of the US government's control of the internet. In essence, [the EU called for] a new version of the current overseeing body ICANN and an end to the US government's overall control of the DNS. The US was scathing about the proposals, within minutes telling delegates that it "can't in any way allow any changes" that would prevent it from having overall control of the internet. Other countries, like Brazil, China, Iran and Cuba support the proposal. Brazil's ambassador outlined: "It is not a question of being anti-ICANN, it's about having a very clear and open and democratic and inclusive mechanism of overview of certain functions that today are performed by ICANN with no kind of supervision."
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The Internet was suppost to bring us together.
by on Sun 2nd Oct 2005 05:33 UTC

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After reading all of these posts, a few things have come to my mind, being an American.

Europeans and other countries around the world bash Americans for many things...America does have a lot of problems, a lot of uneducated people and the like, but for the most part it is a very Inward looking country. Americans let the government meddle in foriegn affairs because they just have a ton of apathy about it. The average American does not know where most countries are around the globe, and many have no interest in leaving the US even for a vacation. What is interesting though is how interested Americans are when they actually meet a foriegner. Most Americans never leave the US.

It's too bad that Europeans especially are getting more and more hostle to the US. The average US citizen could give a rats ass about competing with Europe. Americans work ignorantly hard to keep up their lifestyles and improve/maintain their way of life. We could improve the life of Americans and Europeans (and others) by putting a lot of politics aside and working together like we used to. Both sides have a lot to contribute. It's the cheapening out of both the European and American economies with all of this cheap imported goods that raise competition between two excellent economies.

Lastly on the internet stuff, America developed and financed the internet. There were many people that contributed theories that were used to build Internet technologies but America built it. And we let everyone use it freely...look how great it has become. Just because many countries have latched onto it does not mean in my mind that we have to let go of our creation. I believe that if other countries consider it so strategic and don't trust the US to administer it anymore, why didn't they develop their own network and protocols?

Read the book "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" by Katie Hafner and Matthew Lyon.

Just look at some comments from previous posts:

>>To the eyes of the 95% people on earth who are not US Americans, the current situation is absurd. Why should the net be ruled by an American organism ? A possible answer is "because the US was its main contributor until the late 90's" but this is not a good reason why the US should be granted that privilege forever.

>>The US "contributed" to the internet? The US created it for crying out loud

>>I honestly think the reason is stupid (pardon the bluntness). If it's working OK, leave it as it is. If not, change it. But simply to claim 1 country shouldn't have full control of it is, er, envy. The US built it, the US rule it. If the US come to misuse it, then think of changes.

>>I know of many issues with ICANN, and I know of various economic meddling regarding the internet. BUT, the stewardship of the Internet has been American.
The US is very extreme in its belief that all speech should be free. Even in the most liberal EU countries like Germany and France there are some political statements and political symbols that are banned. We're now one step closer to a censored internet.

>>The U.S.A. built the internet so we own it. Go get your own. Oh you say you helped. Thanks. If you don't like it then log off.

>>Face the facts: The internet(IP/TCP/UDP based networks) started out in the US

>>This all happened with it under the oversight of the US. I see no, I mean NO reason whatsoever to allow any world body to take it over.

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1/ if it is work dont fix it but who can ignore the growing influence and power of the corporates in US. it can be quickly scary and problematic. i'm much more willing to believe an EU organization when it's come to public interests.

2/ US invented it but dont own it, could you imagine the country that invented the telephone managing all network rules and numbers in every others countries ? be serious.

the network is mainly non-american nowdays.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

I believe that if other countries consider it so strategic and don't trust the US to administer it anymore, why didn't they develop their own network and protocols?

They did create their own networks. The internet came to existence by connecting the many international networks (Europe had their own). Why develope a new protocol when there already is one that works fine? USA invented the ARPAnet which was connected to the european network which was connected... and so on.

Lastly on the internet stuff, America developed and financed the internet.

And so did other countries as well. European countries did also develope the internet and they financed it as well. USA created the ARPAnet but not the internet.

There were many people that contributed theories that were used to build Internet technologies but America built it.

They built it together with somebody else (as you admit yourself). Ergo it's not solely an US creation. It's a world creation.

And we let everyone use it freely...

Well.. that's arrogant. We worked with you on the project as well. You did it together with us. So thank you very much for giving us access to our own work :p

look how great it has become.

Yeah, we did a good job together, didn't we?

Just because many countries have latched onto it does not mean in my mind that we have to let go of our creation.

WWW is an european invention running on top of the network, The internet is a world wide creation, and not just your creation. It's everybody's creation. So give the rest of us the access we deserve. You're holding our creation as a (political) hostage.

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