Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Jan 2010 11:37 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems It's funny how while software changes so fast, and many hardware components evolve at ridiculously fast paces (processors, memory, hard drives), the keyboard has remained largely unchanged over the years - until recently, that is. Even Lenovo has now buckled under the pressure, switching to a chiclet-style keyboard for ThinkPads - while also removing the SysReq key.
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Oh no!
by boudewijn on Thu 14th Jan 2010 11:59 UTC
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I bought thinkpads (I currently use an X61t and a W500) not because the keyboard had a "clean and inviting" look, but because I could use them for up to twelve hours a day without any trouble.

I don't care about the SysReq key, but I do care about having the function key as function keys instead of weird hardward keys. Even on my MacBook pro (fortunately an older model, one without those ghastly new keyboards Apple makes now) I remapped the top row to function first, hardware second.

What really makes me cry, though, is that my old IBM keyboard is still somewhere with a previous employer. It wasn't worth retrieving it because it never worked well with the ps2-usb bridge. Now that was a keyboard that made me productive!

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RE: Oh no!
by Lennie on Thu 14th Jan 2010 12:12 in reply to "Oh no!"
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The Model M ?

I love my Model M as well.

The Model M only has one problem, noise.

Not for the user, but the environment.

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RE[2]: Oh no!
by boudewijn on Thu 14th Jan 2010 12:19 in reply to "RE: Oh no!"
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Yes, and as a user, I loved the sound. And I guess it must have been music in the ears of a discerning manager to listen to the developers at Tryllian -- many of them were using a model M, and vi, and had the habit of pressing Esc twice. Ratatata-beep! Ratatata! The sweet sound of extreme productivity.

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RE: Oh no!
by darknexus on Thu 14th Jan 2010 12:39 in reply to "Oh no!"
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I can't agree more. Whoever thought that putting the F keys as second tier (not sure who actually started the practice) was an idiot. At least it makes a bit of sense in OS X, where the F keys aren't used so much (though i always remap this immediately), but in various PC oses? The F1-F12 keys are essential for keyboard power users, much more so than media controls. When in GNOME especially, I use the F1-F12 keys all the time, and even in Windows a lot of applications use them as shortcuts. Disgraceful.

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RE: Oh no!
by license_2_blather on Thu 14th Jan 2010 23:17 in reply to "Oh no!"
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Check out Unicomp ( They bought the design from IBM and continue to make those wonderful clackety keyboards in various newer form factors, as well as native USB. I found them and bought one when I too noticed that my Model M didn't work too well with any PS2->USB converter I had. Love it.

I just bought a Deck keyboard, to get backlit keys in a quality keyboard, and while it's well made, I still prefer the Unicomp.

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RE[2]: Oh no!
by MamiyaOtaru on Fri 15th Jan 2010 08:58 in reply to "RE: Oh no!"
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I use sysrq occasionally in Linux to sync the filesystem and shutdown safely when everything on screen is frozen. It's a nice failsafe. alt-sysrq r e i s u b ;) Of course, I'd rather not ever have to use it.

I just bought a Deck keyboard, to get backlit keys in a quality keyboard, and while it's well made, I still prefer the Unicomp.

I love my Deck. Did you get one with tactile or linear switches?

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