Linked by kloty on Tue 6th Apr 2010 21:22 UTC
Editorial A few years ago I wrote on OSNews several articles (1,2) about workstations. After three years I had to stop, because there were no workstations left on the market, they became legacy and were not sold any more. Now with the rise of mobile devices with touchscreen and wireless network connectivity virtually everywhere, the question becomes valid, what will happen with the desktop computers, are they still needed, or will they follow the workstations on their way to computer museums?
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RE: Comment by ssa2204
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 7th Apr 2010 08:07 UTC in reply to "Comment by ssa2204"
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Sure the PC will be dead, the day they figure out how to:
1.) Connect your little toy device to a screen that is actually readable


2.) Provide the storage capacity to rival what a desktop could theoretically have.

How much space do you need? Most people's music collection fits on a 30 gig ipod. ID estimate that they'd need close to 150 gb for movie collection. So once they hit 200 gb of storage, it will be close.

3.) Provide processing power to rival that of a desktop

For what? A desktop of what era? today's? Yesterday's ? tomorrow's? Its a moving target describing what? People want to do things other than add integers and floating points. That's what matters. The nexus is more powerful than the computer I had four years ago.

4.) Of course provide a means of input, and now the little on screen keyboards just do not cut it.

You mean a doc? like the Ipad keyboard doc?

Get the point? No, the desktop will be with us for years to come. Of course innovation and advancement will occur. When the future cell phone has a 5Ghz quad core CPU, while impressive, let's not forget that the what the desktop will have!

I think you've done a good job convincing me that the article isn't that far off. I don't care what form the desktop takes. Just that it has the features you listed above. Plus maybe hardware upgrades. No crappy non serviceable battery.

Edit: But maybe I could be persuaded to give up hardware upgrades if the price was right.

Edited 2010-04-07 08:13 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by ssa2204
by Kroc on Wed 7th Apr 2010 08:55 in reply to "RE: Comment by ssa2204"
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But maybe I could be persuaded to give up hardware upgrades if the price was right.

Convienience. I used to build and maintain my own computer for ages, and eventually I grew tired of that. Upgrading is great and all, but at the end of the day you want to save space, you want to declutter and you want to spend more time being productive than forever maintaining your computer. I went from hand building a desktop cheaply to an expensive Mac laptop and haven’t looked back.

The desktop will eventually be the domain of the engineer and the “fetishist hardcore gamer”. The rest of us will have moved on to a less stressful, less complicated computing experience.

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RE[3]: Comment by ssa2204
by r_a_trip on Wed 7th Apr 2010 10:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ssa2204"
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I think this is a grave oversimplification. I'm neither an engineer nor a “fetishist hardcore gamer”. I like the simplicity of the PS3 and Wii for gaming. Yet I also like to build my own PC's. It gives me the option of tailoring the components to my needs and budget, while still getting a sturdy workhorse. A self built PC, with well selected components doesn't have to be more hassle than a shelf bought PC. Mine have always behaved very well.

Even "an expensive Mac laptop" will need software maintenace at some point. And "an expensive Mac laptop" can have hardware problems. Plonking down money is not a guarantee against malfunctioning.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:

I'm not a hardcore whiteboxer. I just build them once, often from barebones kits. I wont touch them again unless there is a problem. Its more satisfying to know exactly what's in the box.

Although... I also have a Mac book. But it still allows me to upgrade the memory, hard drive and battery. I've upgraded all but the battery, and it's much better after my modifications. Its still running OSX, but its getting used less and less. When I do use it, I typically hook it up to a 24 inch monitor and usb keyboard and mouse.

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RE[2]: Comment by ssa2204
by cerbie on Sun 11th Apr 2010 07:07 in reply to "RE: Comment by ssa2204"
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HDMI plugging into...what? This DVI port here? That DVI port there?

Until one of the other new ports finally, "wins," I'm sticking with DVI, which is on all my current hardware, and likely to be on any future hardware,

200GB doesn't even cover CDs (hyperbole: it's about 230GB, right now). I'm not average, and I'm OK with that.

Processing power I agree with. Drivers are a far more important issue (and the reason we don't have good ARM devices around). I have all the processing power I need in a PC that's a few years old, and we're still getting faster and adding more of those still-faster cores.

I think you will give up hardware upgrades. Based on what AMD is doing just next year w/ LLano, once we can get high-speed RAM (like DDR5) into PCs, the equivalent of $100 video cards today will not be needed (just as non-Intel IGP has replaced the need for a card to have a decent display and decent 2D GUI performance). Then, you'd need to plug in storage and RAM, with maybe one or two internal PCI-e slots.

Add another decade, and those slots go away. It's a box with plenty of peripheral I/O options, that might have upgradable memory. Think Mac Mini, but w/o Apple's minimalism.

Eventually, a PC at a place where you sit down will not be about hardware features so much as being able to sit there, with a mouse, keyboard, big display, and big storage (NAS for everyone is like thin clients--neat sometimes, but it doesn't work out so well for most people in the long run).

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