Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th May 2010 19:23 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes There's one complaint we here at OSNews get thrown in our faces quite often: what's up with the lack of, you know, operating system news on OSNews? Why so much mobile phone news? Why so much talk of H264, HTML5, and Flash? Where's the juicy news on tomorrow's operating systems? Since it's weekend, I might as well explain why things are the way they are. Hint: it has nothing to do with a lack of willingness.
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Amiga standing up from the ashes?
by Amix on Sat 15th May 2010 20:36 UTC
Amix
Member since:
2006-10-18

I don't understand the anti-Amiga thing. Did Commodore do something wrong? I mean, ever since Commodore got Amiga, there were skeptical feeling around the product since the start. Like someone wanted Amiga dead. It's been haunted by that, but still Amiga have survived Windows 95, Windows XP, Linux, BeOS, MacOSX launches. Why is people so skeptic about Amiga?

For a dead machine, Amiga is surviving.. Just look at Aminet! Gets daily updates, Amigaworld.net gives you latest news, morphzone.org updates the blue side of the amy river and Amiga Future keeps Amigans updated in paper form magazine.

I am very glad that OSNews haven't forgotten Amiga and its importance of the operating system world. I am a mac,pc,amiga user myself but I really appreciate OSNews dedication for giving the world information about what's happening in an unknown-known platform. I really do. Thank you.

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

The Amiga is dead. Survived Windows 95? It was dead years before. Yes, yes, yes, the fans are still around, worshipping a platform that has nothing but the brand name left intact. Of course people are sceptical.

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Amix Member since:
2006-10-18

Ehrm. Amiga have never been dead. You dream its dead, but the fact that companies supports it since dawn of time shows how successfull Amiga have been. No one thinks or beliefs that Windows would have survived like Amiga have.

Acube, Elbox, Hyperion, Genesi+++ is all little known outside of Amigaworld, but they are here and they can survive because AMIGA iS STILL ALIVE! Stop spreading nonsence about that Amiga is dead,.. its wrong information!

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Hisoka999 Member since:
2009-08-13

May be because the amiga platforms are a dead end?

MorphOS
runs only on half death hardware and you don't know when the day will come and the devs don't want to switch to another hardware platform.

AmigaOS4 is the same as MorphOS only that it gets a new too expensive machine. So there will be nearly no groth in the userbase.

AROS? Aros is unfinished and is lacking in software and drivers so you can not really use it. So as a consequence you don't have a userbase. Another thing is that they try to be a replacement for a dead os(OS3.1) which is in no possible term modern and so not interesting for the majority of users/devs.

Conclusion:
It is nice to see Amiga type operating systems advancing but they don't have any userbase.(together under 10.000 users). Another thing is that all three systems lack in the same areas. They look to much back, compatibility is everything. So you could say that they are half dead. The last thing is that the users are destroying the system with fighting against each other too much.

I hope I am wrong but I don't think so.

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Quazatron Member since:
2010-05-15


For a dead machine, Amiga is surviving.. Just look at Aminet! Gets daily updates, Amigaworld.net gives you latest news, morphzone.org updates the blue side of the amy river and Amiga Future keeps Amigans updated in paper form magazine.


World of Spectrum also gets daily updates (and even fresh software!) but I wouldn't count on anyone switching their OS to Sinclair BASIC anytime soon...

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AaronD Member since:
2009-08-19

This thread proves Thom's point, doesn't it?

Nobody outside of the hardest core Amigans believe that AmigaOS will ever displace Windows. That doesn't mean that AmigaOS, BSD, Haiku, SkyOS, or any of the other niche operating systems don't have anything to contribue to the big picture of personal computing. Any promising ideas that the small players cook up will quickly be imitated by the big 3 anyway.

My point is that these hobby operating systems give geeks different angles from which to view operating system design. They are a playground in a time when the big operating systems are increasingly set in their ways--because they have to be. Mobile operating systems are exciting for the similar reasons with the added dimension that a new platform is being developed.

We geeks have to stop looking at alternative operating systems through the lens of market viability. So what if they don't make money? There is still value there.

An operating system is not dead as long as there are users and developers that support it. Since when are hobbies supposed to make sense anyway?

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Amix Member since:
2006-10-18

You serve a good reply, but then you refer to the OS's which isn't mainstream as hobby OS's. How can you hurt me as a MorphOS user so much?

I use MorphOS for Web, e-mail, irc, msn, ftp... I play games on it, I write documents using Google Docs, I watch 720p movies on my macmini! I can multitask,.. I make web graphics with TvPaint.

MorphOS is not a hobbyst OS. Not for me and my usage! Maybe others uses it as a hobby OS, that doesn't mean it is because the other person doesn't know how to use MorphOS in a serious ways. Yes, the OS have its limitations compared to the big OS'es, but I find it way more comfortable to work with than any other OS's I've tried (never tried BeOS).

Stop treating Amiga, BeOS, SkyOS etc+++ users as dumb people. We use the OS's because they are alive. And yes your right. With more respect, people will have the will to try the small ones maybe. MorphOS needs more developers.. its screaming after that and now it exsists for cheap MacMini G4 hardware. It's never been easier to get a good AmigaOS compatible feeling and yet be able to watch HD content and surf the web faster than on most operating systems ;)

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Sabon Member since:
2005-07-06

You can say the same thing about OS/2 (eComStation). They feel the rebirth of OS/2 is at a magical moment for them. Yet when was the last time you saw anything about eComStation in OS/News?

Personally I think it is time to find someone new to run this site. It isn't that news isn't out there. It is that Thom has run out of steam. I know Thom will be mad that I'm saying this but I feel it is true. It is just what he finds interesting isn't interesting anymore … for him.

It work too many hours to even think about it.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Yet when was the last time you saw anything about eComStation in OS/News?


A few weeks ago?

http://www.osnews.com/story/23198/eComStation_2_0_GA_To_Be_Released...

Oh, and a few days before that?

http://www.osnews.com/story/23180/Rumour_IBM_To_Re-Launch_OS_2

Seriously. And once again, you have not submitted anything to OSNews ever. Wonderful how the people who complain are those who never submitted anything.

Edited 2010-05-17 15:51 UTC

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