Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:19 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless You may not have noticed it, but in the past six months, we've been experiencing a true massacre. Not one written in blood, but one written in microchips and touchscreen displays. The scene of the crime? The United States. The perpetrator? Google's Android. The victims? Everybody else.
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RE[3]: iPhone on Verizon
by WorknMan on Tue 4th Jan 2011 03:05 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: iPhone on Verizon"
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He's saying "why should I have to root the device to be able to get functionality that it's already supposed to have according to Google's marketing?" - ie, Updates, as opposed to CHOOSING to root the device if you want to make it do things that aren't promised or supported by the OS's developer. There is a real and significant difference in there, just many choose to ignore it and lump them into the same boat, as you have.

Actually, you missed my point as well ;) It's not the rooting that bothers me, but the work involved just to get back to a vanilla base on most Android phones. It's like PC vendors that cell you a computer loaded down with bloatware, and then they don't give you the generic install disc so that you can reformat and start fresh.

With iOS, it comes vanilla, and then you jailbreak and add whatever you want on top of it; that's how I like to roll.

And for the record, I have never claimed (nor do I imagine I ever will) that iOS devices are better than Android, and vice versa. (And since I own an Android phone myself and own zero Apple products, it would be hard to label me as an Apple fanatic.) It really depends on who you are, and what you want.

Take my parents for example... they have an iPad and are already familiar with that interface. They like iTunes and are already on AT&T, as they live in an area where the service doesn't suck. I think even the most hardened Android fanboy would have a hard time making a case as to why they shouldn't buy an iPhone, which they're about to do in a few days when their contract is up for renewal.

Contrast that with a friend of mine, who hates iTunes and anything having to do with Apple, and loves to spend hours on end screwing with his phone. In his case, Android is a perfect fit. Not saying that you HAVE to spend hours screwing with an Android phone, but Android is a tinkerer's paradise ;)

Edited 2011-01-04 03:08 UTC

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RE[4]: iPhone on Verizon
by mtzmtulivu on Tue 4th Jan 2011 04:11 in reply to "RE[3]: iPhone on Verizon"
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You arent coming across as an apple fanatic, you are just coming across as being critical on androids while giving apple a pass for the same things, can you explain why this is so or am i just reading you wrong?

Do you want examples?

With iOS, it comes vanilla, and then you jailbreak and add whatever you want on top of it; that's how I like to roll.

Here is another example from your post

- Whereas Apple releases new OS updates for all their phones at the same time, you have to wait for weeks (or even months) on most Android phones, or else do the root/custom ROM thing, and have to put up with the same shite I mentioned above. Of course, you could always get a 'Google' phone to solve all these problems, and end up (in the US) on a carrier where you'd have to walk outside and stand in the middle of the street just to get a signal.

Dont see any bias in the above? OK, you have a jailbroken iphone and the update breaks it, whats next? You will either update to get the new functionality and loose the functionality you wanted enough to bother to jailbreak the phone or sit on the older version waiting for the community to jail break the phone. Again you are being critical on android here will giving apple a full pass, care to explain why?

Google phone gets an update in time, you acknowledge this but right afterwards discredit the phone by mentioning how terrible the network the phone is under implies the service is terrible everywhere in the US.

Why are you always lumping up "most android phones". How many android phones do you use, how often are they updated and how often do you change them?

Of course, I'm not an Android hater and realize that it's infinitely more customizable, but rarely (if ever) do I use any of that stuff, such as the battery-draining widgets that most folks seem to be enthralled with. I've played with my dad's iPad and for the most part, I like the way it works out of the box, so there isn't much I'd want/need to change.

Look at the above, you dismiss one of androids strength, then you were critical on something you dont use and hence doesnt affect you finish up with giving the ipad a full pass with all issues it has.

Again, not saying you are android hater or idevice fanatic, i just made an observation that you are critical on android while giving apple a pass on some of the same issue and i am wondering if you did this intentionality or it just came out unintentionally and are you now aware of it now.

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