Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd Feb 2011 23:56 UTC, submitted by gogothebee
Windows Ah, something Microsoft really couldn't use right now: problems with the very first update to its Windows Phone 7 operating system. In this very competitive marketplace, in which WP7 is a late newcomer, it can't use major problems like this. The thing is though - how big of a problem is this, really? And, is it even Microsoft's fault at all?
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expecting everything
by stabbyjones on Thu 24th Feb 2011 02:14 UTC
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Before android I've only ever had to update a phone firmware once. Smart phones are so disposable these days if you stuck to 1 year contracts and upgraded every year you'd never be too far behind.

Either deal with what they dole out to you or put on a custom ROM. Since when has it been a requirement that phones stay with the latest version of their OS? They have no obligation to do anything at all.

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RE: expecting everything
by unoengborg on Thu 24th Feb 2011 02:49 in reply to "expecting everything"
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Since when has it been a requirement that phones stay with the latest version of their OS? They have no obligation to do anything at all.

No, you are right, phone manefacturers have no obligation to upgrade, but at least when I buy a new smartphone, I look at their track record on upgrades of previous models. If I find out that a specific brand of phones is less likely to get upgrades, chances are that I buy another phone.

Phone makers are slowly starting to realize that you can't sell phones that cost as much as a laptop, if they leave their customers to hang out to dry, as soon as the money changed hands. The fact that Microsoft does the upgrades not the phone makers is the major advantage of WP7, or at least it should be.

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RE: expecting everything
by Radio on Thu 24th Feb 2011 08:00 in reply to "expecting everything"
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Since when has it been a requirement that phones stay with the latest version of their OS?
Since (smart)phones have become targets for hackers. (And also since Google/Apple/MS release buggy/faulty/incomplete software... Android 2.1 can send your text to the wrong person, you don't want that, do you?)

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It may be a small point but you obviously mean "smartphones are becoming targets for [criminals]".. why not use the word "criminal" when what you mean is criminal intent. At least when talking on a tech focused website frequented by Hackers, consider using the term correctly. Hackers are interested in extending the functionality of there own smartphones, not breaking into yours or any real criminal actions.

Now, in terms of criminals now targeting smartphones, I'd agree. As more personal information becomes stored on phones, crminals will look for ways to exploit them. Smartphones have already become general purpose computers under the hood. Software vulnerabilities are a primary method of exploiting that device for criminal gain. Patches are the most effective way to address vulnerabilities in the software design or implementation. Patches are as critical for today's smartphones as they are for any of the big box OS. Even missing or buggy functions need to be promptly patched, if only for QA purposes.

Patches and newer firmware should not be leverages as a way to push future hardware sales. If I buy hardware, I want those firmware updates flowing for a reasonable lifespan of the hardware; don't tell me six months later that I have to replace perfectly functioning hardware just to get patches and firmware. Give me current firmware and patch; let me decide when the hardware has aged or lacks enough standard functions to justify replacement.

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RE: expecting everything
by dsmogor on Thu 24th Feb 2011 11:39 in reply to "expecting everything"
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Smartphone (as opposed to a dumbphone) is a platform device and part of its value is being able to remain viable as a software platform bearer. So if they sell an application phone yes it's their very obligation to maintain its ability to run apps.

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