Linked by lemur2 on Tue 8th Nov 2011 22:40 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones Mozilla has announced the release of Firefox 8 for Windows, Mac, Linux and Firefox for Android. This release appears to be a relatively minor update. Perhaps the main feature of this update is the ability for user control over third-party addons. "At Mozilla, we think you should be in control, so we are disabling add-ons installed by third parties without your permission and letting you pick the ones you want to keep." A detailed technical description of this new Firefox release can be found in the release notes.
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RE[2]: When
by arbour42 on Wed 9th Nov 2011 03:31 UTC in reply to "RE: When"
arbour42
Member since:
2005-07-06

It's taken Opera over a decade to get to version 11. I still think it's the best browser out there.

Mozilla has been overrun by the marketing suits. That's a bad bad sign. This new versioning is strictly for marketing reasons and usually happens when the geeks get sent down to the basement and the suits want to make change for change's sake. These are extremely minor changes that have bumped firefox a major version number.

Chrome should still be on version 2 or 3, and Firefox on 4.3.

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RE[3]: When
by Delgarde on Wed 9th Nov 2011 03:45 in reply to "RE[2]: When"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

Mozilla has been overrun by the marketing suits. That's a bad bad sign. This new versioning is strictly for marketing reasons and usually happens when the geeks get sent down to the basement and the suits want to make change for change's sake. These are extremely minor changes that have bumped firefox a major version number.


Other way around, actually. Mozilla have decided they no longer care about version numbers at all. There's no real marketing around it - no big announcements of an 8.0 release. Just another quiet update that happens to change a number that's not even visible unless you go to the About screen...

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RE[4]: When
by arbour42 on Wed 9th Nov 2011 16:43 in reply to "RE[3]: When"
arbour42 Member since:
2005-07-06

Version numbers are extremely important, especially for developers. How do you know which javascript function isn't working in which browser version? Why does this add-on work in Firefox 6, but not in Firefox (n+3) which came out 4 months later?

Do I need to test my javascript in Firefox 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and Chrome 10, 11, 12, 13, 14? To cover all versions released in the last 6 months?

I'm sick of all of it. In a corporate environment, you want slow, measured version number changes. You can't just keep upgrading for the sake of upgrading every 6 weeks.

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RE[3]: When
by _xmv on Wed 9th Nov 2011 06:19 in reply to "RE[2]: When"
_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

versions are irrelevant. Mozilla does not care about versioning. If they did they'd keep 4.3 to avoid the bad mouthing from people like you.
What they care about is being able to push changes faster, because otherwise they can't keep up.
Example, Google docs using new "HTML5" apis, that only Chrome would support for 6month? That's not possible to compete without updating.
There's a ton of other such examples. Like SPDY too. Heck we wouldn't have websockets working right now.

And yeah, Opera has a low % userbase, guess why. They will have to keep up, too.

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RE[4]: When
by Lennie on Wed 9th Nov 2011 09:04 in reply to "RE[3]: When"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

What I find most annoying (as a webdeveloper) about Opera.

Opera is the only browser that does not support CORS, even IE8 has their own support for it. Firefox with Firefox 8 even supports it with WebGL.

Even in IE5+ you can use a VBScript workaround and get it work if I remember correctly.

Opera does keep up with pretty much everything else.

Edited 2011-11-09 09:05 UTC

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