Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 27th Dec 2011 21:50 UTC
Windows Fascinating, this. As a Windows Phone 7 user, I can attest that it is every bit as good as iOS and Android - heck, in my experience, it is more polished, more consistent, smoother, and faster than either of those two. Yet, despite raving reviews and glowing user comments all over the web, Windows Phone 7 simply isn't selling. Former Windows Phone 7 general manager Charlie Kindel believes it's because neither carriers nor device makers like the control Microsoft exerts over the platform.
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They just make really third rate products
by mlankton on Wed 28th Dec 2011 14:02 UTC
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As an operating system/mobile enthusiast, is there really anything about any Microsoft os that gets you excited? Me neither.

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Im not saying this to have an argument or anything, i like to consider myself platform agnostic with a personal preference to Apple kit. I mean agnostic in that if someone wants a laptop i wouldn't automatically say get a macbook pro when a £400 win7 laptop would suit their needs.

I would say that you are missing out a lot if you don't follow windows system developments. In particular any lecture or videos from Mark Russovich, they are incredibly with fascinating insights into both Windows OS and general OS development. However i think you'd be surprised at the actual great stuff Microsoft does do in their OS's.

Channel 9 and the Win7 / 8 blogs are a great place to start as are the system internals site.

I found the video from Mark regarding thread locking across 256 Core's / CPU's fascinating as well as the work done on the NTFS file system, which i consider the second best FS after ZFS with FAT32 and HFS+ at the bottom end of the FS spectrum.

The work on Memory reduction, the 64bit workings to get 32bit apps to work well with WOW layer.

I will admit there are parts of Windows which could have been a lot better, the standard user admin/elevated user process should have been developed better from NT 3.51 instead of the hack of running standard accounts as administrators. Some of the legacy stuff could be removed and also i hate the registry, it's stable in Win7 but having config / ini files would have been a lot easier, especially for backing up apps/software and restoring it.

However what i would recommend is to separate the company from the OS, ignore Microsoft and their business practices, focus on the OS, you don't have to use it to find the workings fascinating and quite educational.

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mlankton Member since:

The reason I'm not a fan is the inferior user experience and the arcane administration (compared to unix systems). Not an MS hater, just haven't thought any of their products were compelling enough to use.

I will say that I absolutely hate the interface of the Xbox 360. The PS3 has a clean, easy to use interface. The 360 user experience is a mess.

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