Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Jun 2012 17:05 UTC
Windows Two links to Marco Arment within a few days? Well, if you make good points: "Many Windows developers were upset that iOS development had to be done on a Mac, but it didn't hurt Apple: the most important developers for iOS apps were already using Macs. But the success of Windows 8 and Windows Phone in the consumer space requires many of those consumer-product developers, now entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, to care so much about Windows development that they want to use Windows to develop for it. How likely is that?" As usual a bit too Apple-centric (he implies - as explicit as possible while still being implicit - that only iOS developers can create great applications), but his point still stands. Judging by the abysmal quality of Microsoft's own Metro applications (Mail, Video, Music, People, IE10, etc.), even Microsoft doesn't know how to create great Metro applications.
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RE: Comment by sagum
by fatjoe on Sat 23rd Jun 2012 18:31 UTC in reply to "Comment by sagum"
fatjoe
Member since:
2010-01-12

First of all, why are everyone making judgement on unfinished and early preview apps?

Secondly, these apps are SIMPLIFIED. They are meant to be easy to use even for people with no computer experience. This is new direction for Microsoft that we should applaud not ridicule.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/03/windows-8-mai...

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RE[2]: Comment by sagum
by reduz on Sat 23rd Jun 2012 18:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by sagum"
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2006-02-25

I'm sorry but the "more accessible because it's simpler" argument doesn't work. People mainly learns when there is a need for it, and accessibility comes second as a plus.
Facebook is a prime example of of accessibility vs need and Apple does a great job in promoting their products as needed to belong to a social status.

But for Microsoft and Windows 8, the argument is pretty much.. what is the need for it? what does it change? why should people care?

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RE[3]: Comment by sagum
by Nelson on Sat 23rd Jun 2012 19:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by sagum"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I'm sorry, but the reality is that consumers hardly get to make the choice. If technology truly sold on satisfaction alone then there's no way in hell that Android would dominate.

The pitch has always been to OEMs. DESPITE Microsoft launching their own Surface tablet, Windows 8 still represents an OEMs best bet to take on the iPad.

Android has failed OEMs spectacularly. Performance isn't there, patents are a legal minefield, app quality isn't there, the platform is wholly unsuited for tablets. Even on ICS many objective people can still concede it is largely unready.

In contrast, Windows 8 offers stability. It is THE only OS seen as a viable competitor to iOS in the tablet space.

Android won the battle of entrenchment in the Mobile Phone space, but in Tablets it hasn't happened yet. This is where Microsoft will capitalize. Windows 8 will see a spectacular success.

Why will Windows 8 be such a success? It breaks the chicken and egg scenario, and its quite genius.

Developers wont develop for a platform without users, users wont flock to a platform without developers.

Microsoft will put Windows 8 on PCs too, giving them an immense install base (Hundreds of millions), which will entice ANY SANE DEVELOPER.

This is why Windows 8 can, and largely will work for Microsoft. OEMs are enthusiastic about it, just look at Computex. Dozens of devices announced.

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