Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Aug 2012 18:45 UTC
Games Valve has just announced it will start selling applications through Steam. "The Software titles coming to Steam range from creativity to productivity. Many of the launch titles will take advantage of popular Steamworks features, such as easy installation, automatic updating, and the ability to save your work to your personal Steam Cloud space so your files may travel with you. More Software titles will be added in an ongoing fashion following the September 5th launch, and developers will be welcome to submit Software titles via Steam Greenlight." I feel like a broken record at this point, but guys and girls, Valve is going to release specifications for a 'Steambox'. A set of minimum specifications a Linux or Windows machine has to adhere to, either self-built or by an OEM. Steam pre-installed, can be used as regular PC and as a console. With Windows 8 locking itself down, this is their only option - and I applaud it.
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RE[12]: Package management
by lucas_maximus on Fri 10th Aug 2012 20:03 UTC in reply to "RE[11]: Package management"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

you aren't understanding me.

Linux update mechanisms simply replace files in the file system. In Windows it doesn't work like that, it replaces then when it knows they aren't in use thus the reboot.

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RE[13]: Package management
by dylansmrjones on Fri 10th Aug 2012 21:23 in reply to "RE[12]: Package management"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

I't's even worse. Windows simply cannot replace files in use. It's that simple and it is horribly outdated. The only benefit of that is that you get to update your system without worrying that the application in use may crash.

In general that does not happen with GNU/Linux, but the possibility of overwriting files in use does pose its own set of problems. I've had FF crashing too during updates, but I am using gentoo which kinda changes the variables a bit :p

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RE[13]: Package management
by Nth_Man on Fri 10th Aug 2012 22:14 in reply to "RE[12]: Package management"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

Linux update mechanisms simply replace files in the file system.

Mmm... I've seen the update mechanisms of apt stopping services, converting files from one format to a newer one, downloading additional files (like the Flash ones), restarting services; warning Firefox that it has been updated and so Firefox showing a "you must restart Firefox" and a restart button; warning the user that he has to reboot his computer (due to a kernel update); etc. I was told that apt can also compile files and install them, though I have not seen it.
Anyway, about programs don't work as a "service": I see what programs are going to be updated, and I close them if I have them opened; I update and open the programs again if required.

I also asked if people have a way to know if they have to restart Windows so that all the updates are applied. This was not an evil question :-) , I was just curious.

Edited 2012-08-10 22:21 UTC

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