Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:39 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
Hardware, Embedded Systems "Efforts are split between models in which keyboards detach from screens, ones in which the keys remain attached but can be hidden behind displays, and traditional fixed clamshell designs." None of these really float my boat. They work with clunky connectors and weird hinges, while I'd much rather have Surface's nice magnetic connection. On top of that, Surface just looks way better than this stuff. Pretty clear why Microsoft felt the need to make their own hardware.
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RE: piss poor design
by Fergy on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 19:53 UTC in reply to "piss poor design"
Fergy
Member since:
2006-04-10

For the first time ever I have zero interest in the latest version of windows.

What did you like about win98SE winME winXP-SP0 and Vista-SP0 that you were interested in?

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RE[2]: piss poor design
by Bit_Rapist on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 20:03 in reply to "RE: piss poor design"
Bit_Rapist Member since:
2005-11-13

98SE I was interested in running a newer version of DirectX that required it (can't remember which ver, I think 7 or 8)

WinME I skipped I was already on Windows 2000 but I was interested in the changes and it was the last of the Win9X series.

Windows XP I was excited about a single OS for consumer and pros built on the NT kernel

Vista I was excited about Aero and a load of other changes. Yes it was a let down. Windows 7 redeemed my feelings on it.

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RE[3]: piss poor design
by Fergy on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 20:20 in reply to "RE[2]: piss poor design"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

98SE I was interested in running a newer version of DirectX that required it (can't remember which ver, I think 7 or 8)

WinME I skipped I was already on Windows 2000 but I was interested in the changes and it was the last of the Win9X series.

Windows XP I was excited about a single OS for consumer and pros built on the NT kernel

Vista I was excited about Aero and a load of other changes. Yes it was a let down. Windows 7 redeemed my feelings on it.

But DirectX 11.1, USB3.0, less memory usage, improved performance, better file management, better task manager, combined phone/tablet/desktop OS, Metro, HTML5 apps aren't up to par to that?

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RE[2]: piss poor design
by UltraZelda64 on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 21:06 in reply to "RE: piss poor design"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

What did you like about win98SE winME winXP-SP0 and Vista-SP0 that you were interested in?

I'm not to one you were responding to, but those are two easy answers.

1. Windows 98 was Win9x refined, done right, with more hardware drivers and stability without adding too much bloat. It was just a good Windows release for the time, and an improvement over its predecessors. Simple as that.

2. Ever use Windows ME? I was unfortunate at the time to buy a PC at the time, and it came with that version of the OS pre-installed. After you've used that incredibly bloated, slow, unstable disaster for a few weeks (let alone months), you'll be begging for a change. Hell, I even paid for a damn XP "preview" release and then immediately went out and bought an upgrade license when it was finally released--Windows ME was just that bad. It was slow and all it could do well is crash.

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RE[3]: piss poor design
by Fergy on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 21:21 in reply to "RE[2]: piss poor design"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

1. Windows 98 was Win9x refined, done right, with more hardware drivers and stability without adding too much bloat. It was just a good Windows release for the time, and an improvement over its predecessors. Simple as that.

I agree. That is why I said Win98SE.

2. Ever use Windows ME? I was unfortunate at the time to buy a PC at the time, and it came with that version of the OS pre-installed. After you've used that incredibly bloated, slow, unstable disaster for a few weeks (let alone months), you'll be begging for a change. Hell, I even paid for a damn XP "preview" release and then immediately went out and bought an upgrade license when it was finally released--Windows ME was just that bad. It was slow and all it could do well is crash.

I summed up the windows releases that I thought were pretty bad or boring.

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RE[3]: piss poor design
by bassbeast on Wed 5th Sep 2012 05:19 in reply to "RE[2]: piss poor design"
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2007-11-11

Most people don't know this, but the reason WiME was a nightmare was they were in the middle of switching from the 9X VXD driver model to WDM and some idiot in MSFT thought it'd get more people on board if you could use the old VXD drivers as well as WDM.

If you had a machine that ONLY had WDM drivers? It was actually more stable than Win9X and ran quite well. If you had a system with ONLY VXD drivers? Then it was no better or worse than Win98SE. If you were like the majority and got an OEM that had a mix of WDM and VXD drivers? Welcome to the good ship crashalot, hope you weren't expecting to actually use the system for anything.

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