Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Dec 2012 11:51 UTC
Google "Google has revealed that it has no plans to develop dedicated apps for Windows 8 or Windows Phone 8 for its business app products such as Gmail or Drive." Product management director for Google Apps, Clay Bavor, told V3 that Google "will go where the users are but they are not on Windows Phone or Windows 8". Ouch - but for now, hard to argue with.
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RE: Migrating then
by Morgan on Fri 14th Dec 2012 14:26 UTC in reply to "Migrating then"
Morgan
Member since:
2005-06-29

Annoyingly Google has not even updated their stuff for mobile IE yet, so I am quickly losing patience with them either way.


That was one of the few gripes I had when I was using WP7. I didn't blame Microsoft, as the version of IE on that platform is actually one of the best mobile browsers available, and it worked exceptionally well with other heavily dynamic sites.

Of course, Google is under no obligation to make their web apps play nice with every browser out there; in fact I've been pleasantly surprised when Google products seemed to work better in Firefox or Opera than Chrome. However, their overly dismissive attitude towards Windows Phone and Windows 8 seems to go against their mantra of openness. At least, if you define "openness" as being willing to work with their competitors towards a common goal of a truly standards based, open Internet.

I'm not sure if that Google still exists.

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RE[2]: Migrating then
by chithanh on Fri 14th Dec 2012 18:00 in reply to "RE: Migrating then"
chithanh Member since:
2006-06-18

I do not think that Google actively does things to lock out mobile Internet Explorer.

But the standard for the mobile Internet is Webkit. So Microsoft will either have to switch to Webkit, or emulate its behavior in places where standards are ambiguous.

That this is possible even with limited resources is demonstrated very well by Mozilla and Opera.

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RE[3]: Migrating then
by vaette on Fri 14th Dec 2012 23:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Migrating then"
vaette Member since:
2008-08-09

Google is sniffing the user agent and changing behavior for IE. So they are clearly in the wrong either way, having IE "pretend" to be webkit is clearly not a solution suitable for the modern web.

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RE[3]: Migrating then
by Morgan on Sat 15th Dec 2012 03:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Migrating then"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Webkit is an engine, not a standard. For a good primer on what constitutes web standards, see this:

http://www.w3.org/standards/

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RE[3]: Migrating then
by cdude on Sat 15th Dec 2012 09:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Migrating then"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

The problem is more that IE10 still does not support basic web standards like WebGL. All browsers support WebGL and eg Google Maps uses it. IE10 does not for political reasons (they push for DirectX, ActiveX and other Windows-only tech they control to lockin). In the public Microsoft argues WebGL isn't a standard (it is, its supported by all other Browsers out there and HTML5 is a living-standard) and that its insecure (allright, thats why all other browsers support it while IE does the way more secure ActiveX, LOL).

So, not blame Google or the Internet if IE10 is still not able to proper render content. Its Microsoft's decision. They are responsible for you are not having a full internet-experience on your WinPhone. They not do so for strategic reason. Not supporting web standards, not allowing alternate browsers on there WinPhone's who do proper support web-standards. Not blame everybody else but Microsoft. Only they decide how well IE plays with standards, only they can do changes in IE. In fact Google worked around this in the past by offering Chrome Frame for IE on Windows 7. They cannot for WinPhone cause Microsoft does not allow them to do so. Its a strategic decision. If you not agree with Microsoft then blame Microsoft. Not buy there product if you are not happy with it. There are enough alternates out which all sell better and do proper support web standards. Buy them.

Edited 2012-12-15 09:34 UTC

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RE[2]: Migrating then
by zima on Tue 18th Dec 2012 16:05 in reply to "RE: Migrating then"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I've been pleasantly surprised when Google products seemed to work better in Firefox or Opera than Chrome

When was that? In my experience, Google products always neglected Opera ...which I use fairly consistently as my main browser for over half a decade.

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