Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st May 2013 10:11 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Google and HTC made a lot of dreams come true this morning when Android head Sundar Pichai announced a version of the HTC One with stock Android at the D11 conference. Google's Hugo Barra happened to have a stock One in his pocket, and he gave me a quick look." This is awesome. So incredibly awesome. This is the way to go for Google to ensure the most popular Android devices can be obtained with stock Android for those of us that want it. It's also great for custom ROM makers - although it might be that crucial driver code is still closed and unusable for custom ROMs. Also, good guy HTC: they might make a downloadable AOSP ROM available for people who bought the HTC One with Sense.
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This almost gets it right...
by grahamtriggs on Fri 31st May 2013 10:44 UTC
grahamtriggs
Member since:
2009-05-27

You know what I would really like to see? *All* devices come with stock Android, with manufacturer "skins" as device locked add-ons via the Play store.

With an option for the manufacturers to pre-install their apps of course, and with a compatibility check for OS upgrades to ensure that apps won't break.

Then we *all* get to stay up to date with the Android core, as distributed by Google, and the manufacturers still get to differentiate themselves with their choice of developed skins.

This all seems fairly feasible, seeing as I can already replace the Launcher, etc. with apps from the store, and that some - like Facebook Home - are already locked to certain devices.

So lets just fix this problem once and for all.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

It will never happen.

When Vodafone introduced the N95 in Germany they had a custom firmware version without WiFi support to force everyone that wanted Internet access to do so via 3G contracts.

With operators doing scummy things like this, you will never have them agree to sell you proper Android phones for the customers that get their handsets from them.

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tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

That's why Google should make "fastboot oem unlock"-able bootloaders and 100% driver source availability and GPLv2 compatibility preconditions for having the Play Store on your phone. Make them play nicely or give up the app availability.

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RE: This almost gets it right...
by Nelson on Fri 31st May 2013 15:03 in reply to "This almost gets it right..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

The problem is in the OEMs/carriers, a lot of these bundled apps and skins can't be uninstalled at all from the device without jumping through hoops.

Understandably OEMs/carriers jointly want to differentiate in any way they can. I just don't think HTC, Samsung, et all necessarily have an affinity for software development and they generally do a terrible job.

On the other end of the spectrum, Google would love for Android to be stock. However Android's success isn't analogous to that of say, iOS in that for Android to be successful it required supreme capitulation to OEMs/carriers. They're essentially vehicles of endless amounts of crap ware like Windows PCs are.

Microsoft faces the same dilemma and solves it similarly with Signature PCs (think Nexus for PCs) but like the Nexus program, its limited in scope.

This is one of the inherent problems in being an open (as in tinkering) platform. And problem is debatable, some people here would argue its a strength and I could understand that side of the coin.

I'm not particularly excited about a stock HTC One being sold individually as much as I'm happy about the possibility of a stock AOSP HTC One ROM coming out. That should genuinely be of use to many enthusiasts, and should help any CM efforts already underway, hopefully.

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