Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Apr 2014 15:04 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones

Firefox 29 has been released, and the most prominent new feature is an entirely new user interface. It's smoother and less angular, and has clearly been designed to somewhat resemble Google Chrome. Hence, I personally think it's a major step forward - except for Firefox' version of the Chrome menu, which uses a grid of icons instead of a list (?!) - but I'm nearly 100% convinced many Firefox users will not like it. It's change, after all.

Luckily, Firefox is customisable to the point of insanity, so I'm pretty sure you can revert to the old look with the right themes and extensions.

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RE: Comment by mrAmiga500
by bosco_bearbank on Tue 29th Apr 2014 16:21 UTC in reply to "Comment by mrAmiga500"
bosco_bearbank
Member since:
2005-10-12

Classic Theme Restorer addon is my friend (and maybe yours, too - YMMV). If I wanted my Firefox UI to look like Chrome's, I'd just use Chrome

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RE[2]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by shmerl on Tue 29th Apr 2014 17:04 in reply to "RE: Comment by mrAmiga500"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Yep, just installed it to fix some Australis annoyances. Enforced Reload button in the URL bar was one of them.

Edited 2014-04-29 17:04 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by KrustyVader on Tue 29th Apr 2014 23:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
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2006-10-28
RE[3]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by hallux on Wed 30th Apr 2014 23:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
hallux Member since:
2013-12-08

Don't know about you all, but I'm getting really sick and tired of having to relearn how to use my fricking browser OVER AND OVER again every few weeks when these clowns decide it's necessary to change everything.

By DEFAULT, it should give the user the option to keep the current interface and just replace the under-the-hood components that need replacing... I think I'm just going to stop using FireFux henceforth and chose a different browser that I don't have to keep relearning because I HAVE OTHER, BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY TIME THAN LET SOME GROUP OF IDIOTS TELL ME WHAT I AM OBLIGED TO DO!!! While I'm aware the product is basically free, at the same time they are CHOOSING to change the interface, and making learning the new interface the price of being able to know your browser is up to date and safe (or at least safe-ish) to use.

If you don't feel that, let me translate it. Imagine if someone kept rearranging the controls on your car. "I swear officer, yesterday the BRAKE PEDAL WAS ON THE LEFT!" Or maybe someone moves the switches around in your bedroom, or rearranges the furniture while your asleep. You wake up and can't find the light-switch... say goodbye to your little toes.

Better still, I can use a computer-computer analogy. Imagine if someone decided to try to IMPROVE *YOUR* PRODUCTIVITY by swapping out the positions of the keys on your keyboard. Any day you go to work, all of a sudden you notice that the positions of the ENTER key and SPACE key were swapped. Imagine what a pain in the ass that would be. And WHY did they do this? WHY? Was it NECESSARY? That should be a test, actually, for any software designer. Let me borrow from the authorities during WWII:

Is this trip really necessary?

That test should be applied to any interface change between versions: is this CHANGE really necessary? If not, DON'T CHANGE IT!!!

If I wanted to be forced to do things by dolts for reasons that are stupid and counterproductive, I would still be in THE ARMY! That said, I guess FireFux loses ANOTHER user. I am putting Mozilla on my list along with Misrosoft of companies I don't use garbageware from anymore.

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RE[2]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by bassbeast on Thu 1st May 2014 13:33 in reply to "RE: Comment by mrAmiga500"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Uhhhh...you DO know that if you like the Gecko engine but hate the pants on head retarded way that Mozilla is trying to become an ersatz Chrome you DO have choices, yes?

If you need a jumping off point Comodo IceDragon and PaleMoon are both really good and VERY conservative with UI changes, in fact I don't think Comodo Icedragon has ever changed a UI element. Then there is Seamonkey, Waterfox, or if you need to run it on an older system (even has support for Win9X) and don't mind a barebones UI there is kmeleon.

Point is VOTE WITH YOUR FEET and ditch the company that refuses to listen to you! I did, I switched to PaleMoon and am quite happy. No reason to hack the UI just to get something usable, not when you have choices.

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RE[2]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by _xmv on Fri 2nd May 2014 04:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by mrAmiga500"
_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

if you use a browser solely for its UI you're kinda missing out on more important stuff.

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