Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 12th May 2014 23:47 UTC
Internet & Networking

For years, the US government loudly warned the world that Chinese routers and other internet devices pose a "threat" because they are built with backdoor surveillance functionality that gives the Chinese government the ability to spy on anyone using them. Yet what the NSA's documents show is that Americans have been engaged in precisely the activity that the US accused the Chinese of doing.

What surprises me the most is that there are still people who are surprised by this.

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RE: So...
by Soulbender on Tue 13th May 2014 07:40 UTC in reply to "So..."
Soulbender
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2005-08-18

Maybe it's also about the "don't buy those guys stuff, it's unsafe and they spy on you. Buy our stuff so that we can spy on you" thing.

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RE[2]: So...
by 1c3d0g on Tue 13th May 2014 13:17 in reply to "RE: So..."
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2005-07-06

And you somehow think that you're "anonymous" on the Internet? Is there a name for this imaginary world that you live in? ;)

As soon as you're connected to the Internet, your privacy goes out the window. Basic networking knowledge. I thought most people knew this by now...

Edited 2014-05-13 13:18 UTC

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RE[3]: So...
by WereCatf on Tue 13th May 2014 14:40 in reply to "RE[2]: So..."
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2006-02-15

And you somehow think that you're "anonymous" on the Internet? Is there a name for this imaginary world that you live in? ;)

As soon as you're connected to the Internet, your privacy goes out the window. Basic networking knowledge. I thought most people knew this by now...


That's like saying that since people can already see some of your skin while walking on the street you should just discard all of your clothes and go bucknaked. It's a silly argument; even if some parties can track some of the things you do that's not an argument for just nilly-willy sharing everything with them.

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RE[3]: So...
by Soulbender on Tue 13th May 2014 16:05 in reply to "RE[2]: So..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

And you somehow think that you're "anonymous" on the Internet?


No.

As soon as you're connected to the Internet, your privacy goes out the window. Basic networking knowledge. I thought most people knew this by now...


You know this is a different thing, right? Spying from network equipment would give them access to your *private* network and all the data that you're *not* sending over the internet.
Basic networking indeed.

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