Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Feb 2018 23:04 UTC, submitted by Morgan

Such a development would cause a soul-shattering upheaval in my mental life. Although I fully understand the fascination of trying to get machines to translate well, I am not in the least eager to see human translators replaced by inanimate machines. Indeed, the idea frightens and revolts me. To my mind, translation is an incredibly subtle art that draws constantly on one's many years of experience in life, and on one's creative imagination. If, some "fine" day, human translators were to become relics of the past, my respect for the human mind would be profoundly shaken, and the shock would leave me reeling with terrible confusion and immense, permanent sadness.

As a translator myself, I can indeed confirm Google Translate is complete and utter garbage, but the idea that I would "mourn" the end of translators seems outlandish to me. The unstoppable march of technology has eliminated countless jobs over the course of human existence, and if translators are next, I don't see any reason to mourn the end of my occupation. Of course, it'd suck for me personally, but that's about it.

That being said, I'm not afraid of running out of work any time soon. Google Translate's results are pretty terrible, and they only seem to be getting worse for me, instead of getting better. There's no doubt in my mind that machine translation will eventually get good enough, but I think it'll take at least another 20 years, if not more, to get there.

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I'm not sure, but I am also not sure human mind IS deterministic and can be emulated by computers. This is something we, humans, love to debate (as computer would never do :-)) and I am not seeing this stopping any time soon.

But I would bet (and feel) it's not deterministic

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zima Member since:

But I would bet (and feel) it's not deterministic

And what organ tells you that you are not deterministic, hm? Hint: it's an organ that excels in self-deception (see also: placebo effect; or a list of cognitive biases - that is our main mode of operation)

Meanwhile, fMRI research seems to suggest that even so called "free will" is an illusion... (for example, researchers were able to tell from brain activity, visible on fMRI, what will be the answer to some question before fully meaningful question was asked)

Earlier you say...

Computers are deterministic machines, have no notion about emotion and will never have.

Ultimately, they will likely be able to simulate a human brain... we already simulate neural systems of simpler beings.
Oh, and human learning is also based on the past, past experience, on ~statistic (what works and what doesn't)

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fabrica64 Member since:

You won't go far if you resort to insults to convince people. And doubt is important to ingenuity.

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