Linked by Alcibiades on Wed 4th Jan 2006 18:04 UTC
Windows Like a lot of people who have worked in the business, I find myself in conversations about computer security with people who are having problems or know people who have problems. I wrote this to save me from explaining the same thing over and over again to different people, and to save them the trouble of having to make notes as we talked. It was meant to be something you could give to a 'naive user' and have them be able to read and follow it more or less unaided, and while not being a complete guide, at least be something that made them more secure than before they got it.
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RE: Dang!
by Snifflez on Thu 5th Jan 2006 05:49 UTC in reply to "Dang!"
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"Spend more time reading how to cover your own butt because Windows sucks then you do actually enjoying your PC."

Umm... no. Depending on how "filthy" the machine is, it might take some time to clean it up and lock it down, but after that weekly anti-spyware scans should be enough. Contrary to what your trollish screen name claims, Windows is a decent platform that allows users to be productive and enjoy their PC. Security, after all, exists mainly between the chair and the keyboard.

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RE[2]: Dang!
by Windows Sucks on Thu 5th Jan 2006 06:27 in reply to "RE: Dang!"
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You need to do much more then Spyware scans, you must also pay for and update virus scan, you must spend time trying to figure out if emails even from your friends can contain malware.

And how can you be productive if your machine is always having problems. The end user should not have to worry daily about if your PC is secure!

And what about this current WHM hole, no patch for that and it's a BIG hole! What do you do with that.

I don't see how people can say that windows is good. No other product known to man has as many problems as Windows. I mean here we are in the first week of the year and there are several major problems! You dont see that with any other piece of software on earth!

The kicker is that Microsoft has 50 billion in the bank! There is NO excuse for this crap!

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RE[3]: Dang!
by Snifflez on Thu 5th Jan 2006 06:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Dang!"
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"You need to do much more then Spyware scans, you must also pay for and update virus scan, you must spend time trying to figure out if emails even from your friends can contain malware."

This is a weak argument. Since HTML itself cannot be executable, all you have to watch out for are the attachments. However, in this day and age, if you're dumb enough to click on an attachement without making sure that it's safe... well, you deserve to have your system borked by malware; maybe that'll teach you the lesson of being careful online.

Secondly, periodically paying for an update to your virus scanner isn't exactly a huge time-killer, since those subscriptions last a long time. Once again, with most of those services, you can schedule the frequency of getting the updates and scanning your system. Those processes will be run in the background, thereby not affecting your overall performance due to the fact that Windows is a multi-tasking OS. Your argument still doesn't wash.

I will give you the WMF vulnerability. It does sound quite scary. Overall however, it fails to prove your point that Windows is hard to maintain periodically. Every OS is bound to have its "scary virus" once in a while.

I'm not going to bother replying to the emotionally charged anti-Windows ranting and raving that constitutes the rest of your post. I don't like using Windows, but emotional appeals have nothing to do with logical reasoning.

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