The NeXT Information Archive is back. “NIA has evolved from being an information place to being the actual place for ALL NeXT related material; We provide you with information, guides, articles – yes, all the classic stuff, that you know us for – but we’ve also started to bring you software directly on our site. Help you on your way with learning programming and in general just bring resources to you – everything needed for being able to use NeXT as your daily operating system and of course thereby using NeXT software.”
be nice if more of these next nerds were helping out GNUstep and the like so we’re not stuck with macs or a dead OS.
I could not agree more. As the owner of a PPC mac mini, I’d love to switch to GNUstep on OpenDarwin, or some other FOSS OS. My machine has lots of servicable years left, but I know that Tiger is as far as I will be able to go with Apple, and the patches and updates will dry up eventually.
With that said, I have yet to see a distribution of Linux or *BSD with GNUstep as the default wm for PPC.
I’m not sure why you think your PPC will not be supported with the next MacOS upgrade, but I am sure it will. If you wanted to try GNUstep I believe Debian has it in their repositories. (at least the i386 version does)
It’s terrible because the momentum for GNUstep is much lower than it deserves. How can more interest be generated for the platform?
amen and i second the question
I too concur. Hallahjulah. :p
GNUStep is so fscking awesome.
pretty cool! I love my NeXT. Hopefully this’ll prove useful…
i actually just setup a freeBSD box as a desktop machine this weekend. i didnt want to go wait 3 days to compile gnome/kde from ports not to mention im not all that fond of either of them. so i gave windowmaker a try which led me to try out gnustep too flesh out the rest of the desktop enviroment.
so far im finding that it is pretty nice! i just wish you could do something about the ugly grey look of all the GNUstep apps.
I found this a bit ago messing around looking for gnustep stuff:
http://www.etoile-project.org
They seem a bit ambitious, still, creating a cohesive environment that was consistent with the philosophy of GNUstep seems like a good idea, to me. This should definitely receive more interest.
so far im finding that it is pretty nice! i just wish you could do something about the ugly grey look of all the GNUstep apps.
Actually you can do the following:
svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/etoile/trunk etoile
cd etoile/Etoile/Bundles/Camaelon
make
make install
The Cameleon theme engine is installed to:
$GNUSTEP_SYSTEM_ROOT/Library/Bundles/Camaelon.themeEngine
After that, you also need to tell GNUstep where to find the
theme bundle, so write :
defaults write NSGlobalDomain GSAppKitUserBundles ‘( “YourLocationTo/Camaelon.themeEngine” )’
create the directory
~/GNUstep/Library/Themes/ if it is not already there
download http://www.roard.com/Nesedah.theme.tgz to e.g. ~/gnustep
cd ~/GNUstep/Library/Themes/
tar xzf /home/michi/gnustep/Nesedah.theme.tgz
defaults write Camaelon Theme Nesedah
Here you can find some themes:
http://www.etoile-project.org/etoile/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cama…
I am too young to have known NeXT in all of its glory, but I do think that sites like this are important for current projects like GNUstep. I am a happy GNUstep user and (when I get around to learning Obj-C) would like to at some point contribute to the GNUstep comunity by writing my own GNUstep apps. I am not sure that I would ever have tried GNUstep, though, if I had not read about the NeXT and been curious about it, trying the next closest thing: GNUstep. Remembering NeXT emphasizes the power behind an architecture like GNUstep, while projects like GNUstep keep alive the NeXT way of doing things. In short there is a symbiotic relationship between them, and there is no point bashing either groups as they are both working to keep the NeXT alive.
My first real job was as an NT administrator for a customer moving from NeXT. They had the largest production NeXT environment. (8K seats or so) All I can say was that was first real intro to UNIX and I love NeXT. I remember actually working on NetInfo. NIreport NIpush… good fun….