The first beta release of the upcoming Mandriva Linux 2007.1 is now available for download and testing: “Mandriva Linux 2007 Spring Beta1. Main changes: GNOME 2.17; KDE 3.5.6; Firefox 2.0; new suspend and hibernate infrastructure (with bootsplash support); new DNS servers framework (using resolvconf to handle DNS servers from multiple interfaces, and sort them by interface priority); documentation is included on live systems.” Update: AdamW, OSNews reader and Mandriva employee, just emailed me that the .iso images of the Mandriva One live version are not yet the official beta version; the version currently on their servers is an earlier version with certain issues. The conventional installation .iso’s are fine, though. The correct Mandriva One 2007.1 Beta 1 .iso’s will be released early next week.
It’s failed by now. Revenue was not keeping up with other better Linux’s like Novell. I admit that I only use Mandriva because it originate in France, but SUSE work much better on laptops.
I have the numbers, it’s truth.
Nice identity theft …. reversing one letter in my name …
“Nice identity theft”
Nothing was stolen
“reversing one letter”
no, you are wrong
“in my name”
it’s not yours
If that doesn’t violate the OSNews terms of use… it should.
Even after you pointed this out, I had to inspect very carefully before I saw what you were talking about.
“violate the OSNews terms of use”
It doesn’t.
You have violated #10 in the terms of use: “do not reply to already moderated-down comments”
Suspend/hibernate with bootsplash support? Is that bootsplash as in the huge kernel patch that’s basically been deprecated? Gensplash, usplash, splashy and redhat’s gtk based thing (forgot the name) are all far more maintainable than bootsplash.
People have been talking about how they are losing money etc but still I like how this distribution is packaged. Everything seems to be designed with a non geeky user in mind and “it should just work” attitude.
Some people may not agree but I like their urpmi utility better than redhat/fedora’s Yum. Also they have some nice configuration tools to aid non savvy users.
Mandriva along with SuSE and a few others have had one of the most polished KDE desktops that is a pleasure to use and more recently they have been putting some work in the Gnome Desktop as well with their new themes and a nicely packaged Gnome 2.16 desktop in 2007.0
I am also a big fan of their installer which is one of the most user friendly installers around – the part where other installers lack user friendliness usually, drive partitioning is a breeze with their installer.
Mandriva, then Mandrake was the reason I switched to Linux in the first place back around 2001. I still use it on my laptop.
I look forward to the final release of 2007.1.
should note the new versions of the bits everyone cares about these days…
compiz 0.36
beryl 0.2.0 beta 2 (rc1 got in just too late to make this beta, but you can get it from cooker)
there’s KDE 4 stuff in contrib, but obviously not usable, just for poking. also metisse in contrib.
Poor ‘ol Gael Duval,
Founded a company, then got fired from it.
I don’t personally know him or the details of how he let this happen, but the story’s one to remember. I found a fairly recent update, but it’s not something I’ve followed too closely. It doesn’t have much implication on the software, but a company is more than it’s product.
http://trends.newsforge.com/print.pl?sid=06/03/15/208240
When is this off-topic stuff going to stop being posted on _every single_ Mandriva story?
It happened a long time ago. It was extensively discussed at the time. This post is about the first beta of ML 2007.1. It has absolutely nothing to do with Gael. Please take the discussion somewhere appropriate. The update you characterize as “fairly recent” is from March 2006 – i.e. nearly a year ago.
Edited 2007-02-10 03:28
Good points, I’m sorry these types of things stick with people (especially in small business)…
I would like to point out that the URL on the linked article that claims to be a 4,446 MB DVD ISO download is actually 349 MB, since you’re with Mandriva you might be able to rectify this, or notify the author/editor.
Edited 2007-02-10 06:49
Adam, you can’t expect people who care about Mandriva and have been using it for years to forget about Gael as if he was never there.
Well, I agree that firing the creator doesn’t give a good image. But you can’t forget that actually people like Marly, Blino and Adam are there, working to create a good product (which is the case) and a useful community. Why do you want to keep talking about quite old news and demotivate the one that are still working in Mandriva ?
Not a funny thing when I speak about motivation and Warly : http://daily.warly.org/static/9.html
Yep, Warly is leaving Mandriva, good luck to him !
I’ve really tried to stay out of the Gael Duval issue, but it keeps coming up so I’ll dive in. Mandriva is a company, with stock holders. It’s responsibility is to those stock holders, period! I would imagine that even includes Gael.It is managements responsibility to do what is best for the company by way of the stock holders. Often hard choices have to be made. Some are right, some are wrong. Either way, what happened with Mandriva is more of the norm NOT the exception. Companies grow and change, often out growing founders, very often. Out with the old, in with the new and all of that. It takes a different kind of person at some period. IMHO, Gael probably should have left earlier on his own, and on to doing what he does best, and that is STARTING something great, not running something great.
About Mandriva . . .
I was a huge Mandriva fan boy for many years, starting with the first release. I continue to believe that urpmi is hands down the best package management available. At our company we used Mandriva on a regular basis and at one time we even handled the North American support for a good number of their products.
While the “geek” in me would like to see Mandriva do well, the business man in me has to move on. Dealing with the company on a business relationship was nothing less than horid. We (I) stuck in there much longer than we should have, hoping things would change, but they just never did.
So good luck to Mandriva, I’d like to see you revitalized . . . I just don’t believe it’s going to happen.
Jacob, the ISO is truly 4.4GB. Some clients have trouble downloading files larger than 4GB. Try using a dedicated FTP client rather than a browser to download the file.
ou_ryperd, I don’t expect anyone to forget about Gael, it just seems silly to keep bringing it up every time any piece of news about Mandriva is posted. Everyone has their own position on what happened. It’s not like anyone comes up with anything *new* – someone will post “Mandriva killed Gael!!!!”, a few people will agree, then someone will say “it was just a business decision, get over it!” and a few people will agree with that person. Every time. There’s no new information, no new perspectives, nothing. It’s just a bunch of hot air. Why keep doing it?
One other thing: blino let me know beryl isn’t actually on the beta 1 DVD, so scratch that from the list of stuff that’s ‘included’. However, you can just pull it from Cooker, then drak3d will let you configure it.
If somehow package dependencies haven’t been met *all* the packages are being downloaded again.Rather irritating bahaviour.
yeah, that’s annoying. there’s a bug filed on it already. I’m trying to get some attention paid to it. If you use urpmi you can do urpmi –noclean to avoid this (just remember to clean out /var/cache/urpmi/rpms manually occasionally), but you can’t avoid it with rpmdrake.
Important note: please don’t use the One ISOs currently on the mirrors, codenamed ‘doctor’. These are an internal test version that shouldn’t have been uploaded. The final One ISOs will be uploaded some time ahead of the official announcement of this beta on Monday.
The conventional installer DVD ISO, codenamed loolapop, is fine.
I’ve mailed Thom to ask him to add this info to the main story.
Since you are with Mandriva and mentioned the One cd, I thought I’d make note of a severe flaw with that thing. About six months ago I thought I’d try out Mandriva so I downloaded the One cd, because a DVD ISO is just ridiculous. There are no freaking man pages on that thing! And since I’ve never used Mandriva it makes it a bit difficult to figure out how urpmi is supposed to work to install man-pages if there’s no man page to begin with. What the heck are you guys thinking? If it’s a space issue because it’s one cd can’t you drop one of the bloatware apps to free up the 80 or so Megs it takes for man pages?
See the change notes: http://wiki.mandriva.com/Releases/Mandriva/2007.1/Development/Beta1
“Documentation is included on live systems”
i.e., the man pages are now included in One.
Thanks for pointing that out Adam. I wasn’t trying to be a dick or anything about it, but it just seemed like insanity. I’ll pull down the beta and poke at it sometime soon.
If you don’t mind hosing your existing Mandriva install (ie: not a mission critical box) then you can try this build by going to easyurpmi http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
and selecting Cooker from the repository lists.
Su or Sudo and remember to type urpmi.removemedia -a first, in order to reinitialize urpmi’s setup.
Then paste in the results of your script into a console:
urpmi.addmedia Cooker_Mirror_main http://mandrake.mirrors.pair.com/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/i586/me… with media_info/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia Cooker_Mirror_contrib http://mandrake.mirrors.pair.com/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/i586/me… with media_info/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia Cooker_Mirror_plf-free ftp://gsa10.eps.cdf.udc.es/plf/mandriva/cooker/free/binary/i586/ with hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia Cooker_Mirror_plf-nonfree ftp://gsa10.eps.cdf.udc.es/plf/mandriva/cooker/non-free/binary/i58… with hdlist.cz
Once urpmi setup is complete, just type:
urpmi.update -a
urpmi –auto-select -v
These commands are the Mandriva equivalent of apt-get dist-upgrade and work very very well.
Since Adam West posted this hint the first time last year, I have used these commands to upgrade my packages regularly and they really work very well.
Cheers
Matt
Forgot to mention that these commands do not actually upgrade the linux kernel. They upgrade your GNU and your non-free goodies (assuming you selected PLF).
This build fixes the way that x-windows draws baghira… so I am happy.
I *wish* I was Adam West. Then I’d be rich and have a really cool role in Family Guy. Unfortunately I’m just Adam Williamson.
Here’s an update to the tip – you don’t need to do two separate commands any more. You can now (since about halfway between 2006 and 2007, actually) do:
urpmi –auto-update
it basically just does both of those commands together (like dist-upgrade). And yes, you can use that method to bring you up to date with Cooker at any point, just don’t blame us for anything that breaks afterwards