In 1999, Novell Inc. conceded that it would never again dominate the network operating system market with NetWare alone. Still licking wounds from disastrous office productivity crusades against Microsoft, the company shed its WordPerfect albatross, retrenched and embraced what was then an up-and-comer: Linux. It has been slowly melding its products and services with the open-source platform ever since. Read the rest of the report on Novell, Ximian and Mono at SDTimes.
Novell Bulks Up on Linux Tools, Projects
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Kdevelop is not a product from Ximian, neither Anjuta. Anjuta is an IDE based on the Gnome desktop, that is not owned by Ximian, while Kdevelop is another IDE part of the KDE desktop.
You beat me to it. I was wondering what this guy was smoking calling Anjuta and Kdevelop Ximian projects.
I follow the mono and Dotgnu projects fairly closely, doing cvs builds for both on a regular basis and I have never heard anybody say that not having a full winforms implementation will delay a 1.0 release, which the article stated.
The “WordPerfect albatross” wasn’t that at all. If you don’t continue to upgrade a product and everyone else does. Then you aren’t going to be able to sell many licenses. DUH! That’s what happened to WordPerfect with Novell.
Now the same can be said about the newest version of WordPerfect from Corel. What a joke that turned out to be. No real breakthroughs in the product at all. The price shouldn’t have been more than $49.95 if even that for the bug fixes and updated MS Offices filters/converters.
Corel: Gee golly. I wonder why are new version of WP isn’t selling well.
Idiots! And I’m being kind.
Of course, if no one can put it’s hands on it no one will develop for it.
What they should have done is made a 5 user version of Netware freely downloadable for anyone. Then it’s user base would grow and people would prefer Novell NOS rather than Microsoft’s.
“The price shouldn’t have been more than $49.95”
Wish granted, the OEM version is available all over the place for $35.00, you even get a 4Mb 72 pin SIMM with your purchase.
Most users on my network don’t use half the functionality of WordPerfect Suite 8 that is installed on their desktop.
I wish WordPerfect Suite and CorelDRAW for Linux were still available (although I have my own copies myself). If it were, when Ximian is able to replace the Groupwise client I would upgrade about 100 desktops from Windows 95 to Linux.
Oh I do miss WordPerfect so. Word has yet to match WP when it comes to free layout of text and graphics on the same page. KWord is getting there (the frames model is very powerful) but its still not as good as WP. I too wish they still had a Linux version. A KDE one, since we’re just dreaming anyway
RIP.
Oh I do miss WordPerfect so. Word has yet to match WP when it comes to free layout of text and graphics on the same page. KWord is getting there (the frames model is very powerful) but its still not as good as WP. I too wish they still had a Linux version. A KDE one, since we’re just dreaming anyway
RIP.
RE: Roybatty (IP: —.107.197.30.charter-stl.com) – Posted on 2003-09-05 23:16:24
You beat me to it. I was wondering what this guy was smoking calling Anjuta and Kdevelop Ximian projects.
I follow the mono and Dotgnu projects fairly closely, doing cvs builds for both on a regular basis and I have never heard anybody say that not having a full winforms implementation will delay a 1.0 release, which the article stated.
IIRC, there was an interview regarding 1.0 of mono. What has been clearly emphasised was the fact that winforms won’t be ready and probably still a good 6months away. Ultimately, for opensource developers, most will prefer sticking with gtk# and qt#.
1.0 will get the core done so that people can start creating asp.net stuff, however, later on we’ll start seeing more end user/desktop orientated features being added.
Keep an eye on Novell !! more to come.
Thanks Novell.
“Oh I do miss WordPerfect so. Word has yet to match WP when it comes to free layout of text and graphics on the same page. KWord is getting there (the frames model is very powerful) but its still not as good as WP. I too wish they still had a Linux version. A KDE one, since we’re just dreaming anyway
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If you want free layout of text and graphics and are not scared to use frames, then you should be looking for a DTP program rather than a word processor. Programs like Word have tried to add DTP functions to a word processor without doing the job properly.
Look out for the forthcoming Linux version of Pagestream. It costs more than Word Perfect, but the layout engine works well.
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I agree. Besides, these programs aren’t that difficult to use. Quark Xpress is actually downright simple.
As long as they get rid of IPX.
Novell is like security through obscurity. Suits love it. So I don’t mind working with it if it makes the suits feel comfy and safe, and shut the hell up and go sit down in their cube and leave me alone!
Cuz I’m busy. Posting on osnews.com.
RE: hmmm (IP: —.client.attbi.com) – Posted on 2003-09-06 16:10:24
As long as they get rid of IPX.
Novell is like security through obscurity. Suits love it. So I don’t mind working with it if it makes the suits feel comfy and safe, and shut the hell up and go sit down in their cube and leave me alone!
Cuz I’m busy. Posting on osnews.com.
Well, atleast IPX isn’t as bad as NetBEUI. What a hideous protocol that is.
What Novell can do is well is integrat things together. If they can integrat fragmented opensource software into a single bundle that is easy to administrate, they will win alot of people. Ultimately, people will make the decision not on whether it is opensourced based but whether it supports openstandards, competitively priced and easy to administrate (aka lower running costs).
First of all, IP support in NetWare is excellent since a couple of years. Almost 5 years to be exact. Second, NetWare supported IP since 1986 for FTP NFS and routing. Third, IPX may had problems for large routed networks, but for anything with 50.000 nodes or less, it still beats IP for speed and plug-n-play client configuration. Only IPv6 has reached that level of simple client configuration which IPX had from the get-go. Just because you don’t know IPX doesn’t mean it’s bad.
It looks like Novell is getting rid of ipx.they are not using it as much.
This is very exciting news. Novell may have faded from prominance in the last few years, but they still have tremendous respect and name recognition in the industry. I can’t wait to see what innovations they bring to the linux platform in regards to networking and servers. Sounds like someday soon, setting up a linux network and configuring permissions will be as easy as it is in windows, right click, click click click done. It’ll be nice to not have to edit that smb.conf file manually anymore. No offense to samba, I love it, I just think it’s not as easy or intuitive to set up as Windows networking or Netware, and at the end of the day, it’s ease of use and pretty interfaces that sell programs and platforms, not their underlying robustness.