Home > SuSE, openSUSE > SuSE Linux 9.0 Live CD Available SuSE Linux 9.0 Live CD Available Eugenia Loli 2003-10-18 SuSE, openSUSE 34 Comments SuSE has updated their site with features of the new SuSE Linux 9.0. Additionally, they released a Live CD based on the 9.0 version (it’s the RC-1). Mirrors here. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 34 Comments 2003-10-18 5:47 pm I don’t think that RC stands for Release Candidate, e.g. look into the live-eval-8.2/ directory, obviously there was never a “final” version but only one numbered “RC2”. 2003-10-18 5:50 pm Just a note for the adventurous, today I installed the SuSE 9.0 kernel from the people/mantel/ FTP directory on my SuSE 8.2 and it runs fine including ACPI battery status info after starting apcid. 🙂 2003-10-18 6:44 pm why are they still using 2.4.21 ??? 2003-10-18 6:48 pm We’re only at 2.4.22. Thats hardly a big deal. I hope they update to 2.4.23 when it comes out though, thats shaping up to me a nice release. Suse also includes a 2.6.0 RPM. 2003-10-18 6:53 pm I had though they were going to move to Gnome 2.4 for SuSE 9.0. Are they really shipping with 2.2? 2003-10-18 7:09 pm Yep, they really are shipping with 2.2. I asked the SuSE UK ‘info’ people why this was and the guy who answered my query said he didn’t know. I am actually thinking of cancelling my pre-order because of this. 8.2 works fine for me. 2003-10-18 7:46 pm You can always update later with packages from http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/gnomes/ once GNOME 2.4 gets stable/bugfix releases. 2003-10-18 8:13 pm Is Gnome included in the live cd? 2003-10-18 8:14 pm I dunno, not to quibble but not shipping GnomeUI 2.4 ‘out of box’ is kinda strange. Yeah, I know you can easily update, but there’s a major differnce functionality wise from 2.2.x-2.4, and not using the 2.4 base for that user experience (if user installs it) is a pretty big oversite imo. I know SuSE is considered more of a ‘KDE’ distro it seems, whereas RedHat is ‘Gnome’ based…but heck man, why limit yourself. I dunno. It looks sweet otherwise. Nice to see all these great looking linux systems!! 2003-10-18 9:13 pm Sun wanted GNOME 2.2 and not 2.4 for a reason and SUSE in effect ships with the same GNOME as Mad Hatter because that’s th eone that’s been fine tuned the most and because it hasn’t been released for long and it needs serious testing. 2003-10-18 9:29 pm It’s unlikely that it’s a ‘vanilla’ 2.4.21. They will have applied patches from more recent kernels, and perhaps some that are not in the mainline Linux kernels at all. Ah, looked at the Suse page… “Optimized Linux kernel 2.4.21 with many backported features from the next kernel generation 2.6, including an improved scheduler, ACPI, and ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architechture)” 2003-10-18 9:38 pm > You can always update later with packages from Or wait for Ximian to start SUSE 9.0 support for Ximian GNOME (isn’t that what is considered as best GNOME distribution?). 2003-10-18 9:40 pm > Is Gnome included in the live cd? No. Only KDE 3.1.4, Gimp 1.3, Mozilla 1.4 and OpenOffice.org 1.1. 2003-10-18 10:35 pm Cool, that is al I need for now. Not a big Gnome fan here. Had too many issues for me, or at least with the programs I was needing to run. Will install on sons machine and check it out. 2003-10-18 11:01 pm “”I am actually thinking of cancelling my pre-order because of this” Come on! You want a stable system right? You can probably update your system later to 2.4 Gnome 2.2 works fine, SuSE should follow the serious stable os path. If you want to play with unstable / untested things, go to Mandrake.” First off, the pre-orders, and all the promotional material was saying Gnome 2.4 would be included in it. So if someone makes a purchase expecting to get Gnome 2.4, they should get it, especially if the company was offering it that way. Going back and NOT supporting 2.4, and instead shipping 2.2 is entirely up to them. Quite the contrary, I want them to release a stable system. However, they are also a company selling a product. If they aren’t going to release something, to sell preorders based on it. I like SuSE, and will probably stick with SuSE at work. Gnome 2.2 is good, and I have no complaints. However, I want SuSE to provide better Gnome support. So I will inform of this via email, and “vote” with my wallet. When the release a version with Gnome 2.4, I will gladly purchase it. 2003-10-18 11:02 pm I prefer ulb (www.usr-local-bin.org) over Ximian. The turnip stuff stays “true” to the SuSE rpm stuff, whereas Ximian takes it over. Ximian is not bad mind you. However, in updating your SuSE machine, staying close to home is always better (that goes true for any distro, really). 2003-10-19 3:02 am Why call this release 9.0 when everything is more or less still 8.2? Is it because they want to keep up with mandrake? 2003-10-19 7:03 am > First off, the pre-orders, and all the promotional material was saying Gnome 2.4 would be included in it. For my part, I never saw promotional material from SUSE stating so. The first SUSE 9.0 review (also linked from OS news) stated wrongly that Gnome 2.4 is included but the author corrected it later and it was no statement from SUSE. 2003-10-19 8:46 am Because there is support for an entirely new platform in there..? They have rebuild every single rpm with the latest version as well.. and feature-wise, the kernel is close to 2.6. 2003-10-19 9:46 am Because they switched to RPM 4.x and the rpm database and packages for previous SUSE versions are incompatible? 2003-10-19 1:04 pm especially YAST. I would have liked to try out the new graphical setup for server services from within YAST but it doesn’t seem to work with the Live-CD… 🙁 2003-10-19 2:09 pm In all the bickering about Gnome, the big news: a Yast module for samba setup – has gone unmentioned. This is a big improvement over SuSE 8.2 and is functionality that has been often-requested of SuSE. Great news. 2003-10-19 2:32 pm Any idea when Suse 9 will hit the ftp servers for an ftp install. I know it is generally ‘a few months after release’ but does anyone have anything more definite. 2003-10-19 3:26 pm > I know it is generally ‘a few months after release’ but does anyone have anything more definite. A few weeks should be more accurate. For SuSe 8.2 it was ~5 weeks after the international version shipped. The 9.0 international version should start shipping coming week. 2003-10-19 5:34 pm Yep just downloaded k_deflt-2.4.21-121.i586.rpm It feals a little more responsive. But this is may not be the suse 9.0 kernel as stated in the mantel folder. But this kernel s cool for my home PC <-: Will order 9.0 when its out. 2003-10-19 6:42 pm You seem to be right, according to http://www.suse.de/de/private/products/suse_linux/i386/packages_pro… its some revisions newer than the kernel of SuSE 9.0. Anyway, the SuSE 9.0 (and newer [security] updates) will be available on public FTP soon and I will use them. 2003-10-19 9:57 pm Hi, I downloaded the CD, burnt it, and gave it a try. Man, this was a disappointment!! First, I rebooted my portable. Compaq Presario 2100. Runs WinXP, with NTFS. The CD could not find anything to put its swap on (I think) and no “/home”. I think, because I put in the CD and left it for some 15 minutes. When I looked back, it had KDE running (sort of). Moving the mouse was slowwwwww. I didn’t succeed in starting OpenOffice, nice icon on the desktop … Thought, yeeee, that’s slow, maybe because it’s my portable, with a hostile OS on it. And portables are a bit “stranger”. Let’s put it in one of my desktops. Secondly, a desktop. Compaq Deskpro 320 Ram, … Put in the CD, it booted, gave me Yast, found a Lacie External Drive with FAT, decided to create a swap there, and a “/home”, restarted, did not find the lacie again, didn’t find more things of the /etc/fstab, so hung KDE. I was very disappointed with this CD. You wanna drive people away from Linux, give them this as a tryout !! I downloaded the LiveCD from http://www.slackware-live.org. Now, that’s a LiveCD. I may not find all your hardware, nor may it contain all the packages you want to show off with, but at least, it boots within the time to have a cup of coffee. SuSE, nahhh. Got the 8.2 Pro here. Installed it on the same portable as the test above. It was better out-of-the-box than my favorite slackware. Having tuned my slack, it could no longer compare. (And then came a big client for me, requiring me to put WinXP on my machine) Did nobody else have the same problems ?? Why on earth does this CD start with a Yast ? I thought, oh hell, it’s an Installation CD, what is it doing to my disks ?? 2003-10-19 11:25 pm I had quite the opposite experience. Did the same. Downloaded and burned. And booted. And had no problems whatsoever. None. On a desktop with Asus NF2 and ATI video. I did not dig deep. But did exercise quite a few apps here and there. The only issue I have is that I do not sense a lot of reason to upgrade from 8.2. But I will – choosing the 2.6test5 kernel if SuSE will be providing the final 2.6 kernel via online updates. 2003-10-20 9:55 am does it exist an apt-get feeds with all latest suse package ? (additional package not one included in cd like oggle etc ..) 2003-10-20 3:31 pm And upgraded my 8.2 Pro with it. No glitches… err, yes. 🙂 The Live CD worked fine for me as well… This is one sexy package with well over 1000 pages of documentation ! 2003-10-20 5:09 pm Is it possible to install Suse onto the hard drive from the live CD? 2003-10-20 5:29 pm Another person hwo dose not check the iso’s before burning and installing. Congratulations !!! 2003-10-20 9:12 pm I did. They are okay. Seems your comment was a waste of bandwidth. Congrats too. 2003-10-20 10:36 pm I’ve never used SuSE before – RedHat and then Mandrake for me. However the live CD is very nice – I’m actually writing this while using it! A slight problem configuring my ancient printer, so I switched the printer off and started again. It boots much slower than Knoppix, but you get a nicer system once it’s up. No boot-time options are required, as opposed to the 4 or 5 I need with Knoppix. The hard disks are mounted more sensibly. YaST looks a very nice tool. Better than Mandrake’s even. How does software installation work? Mandrake have nearly solved this problem now. A single selected package was enough to update GNOME to 2.4 yesterday, which was impressive. Generally, if I had a second CDROM drive, this Live CD would almost be good enough to use on a day to day basis. I’m not sure whether I choose SuSE 9.0 over Mandrake 9.2. The differences seem pretty small, so I’ll probably stick with what’s familiar.