tcb was the first of many readers to submit the news that KDE 3.2 is out. KDE 3.2 included a number of new features and bug fixes as well as speed improvements. Please use mirrors to download. Update: Here is also the KDevelop 3.0 release anouncement.
KDE 3.2 Released
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http://www.at.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.2.php
oh.. the release is so big we need two announcements at OSNews?
And I’m compiling it right now … Go Gentoo, Go! (Even though compiling is so god damn slow.)
heh.. I see one is removed now, guess it was a human error then, being multiple editors here
anyway, thanx Adam for posting different mirrors and not only the official like slashdot (which put kde.org down on it’s knees)
now let’s all go upgrade to the latest of the greatest!
on another note, all lindows insiders can expect a beta release of 5.0 soon, including kde 3.2, linux 2.6.2, xf 4.4 and reiser4!
*Language bindings for ECMAScript (aka Javascript), Python, Java and Ruby.
Damn I love this
I’ve been using RC1 for about a week and a half now, and it was pretty good – the problem’s I’ve had (kcontrol turning up empty for some users, menu structures all messed up) are all due to Mandrake’s RPMs, which always take about two or three weeks to finalize.
This is the best KDE yet!
KDE 3.2 is an impressive piece of work – fast, powerful, fully-featured, comprehensive – thanks to all the developers – the work is appreciated.
Where is the best place to get debian packages?
been using the 3.2rc for a while and i really like it. i think it will be the first DE i will actually use (having tried many versions gnome, kde and xfce etc in the past), instead of running only a WM + agnostic apps
add “deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main” to your apt sources if you are running stable (woody)
details here: http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian/README
Debian Packages:
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main
any fedora rpms out there yet?
Thanks a lot. I am using debian unstable and I would rather not downgrade for this. Is there a source for unstable packages?
http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/RedHat/Fedora on an ever increasing amount of mirrors.
KDE 3.2 is default on the latest ArkLinux iso. Get it at:
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/arklinux/dockyard/iso/ar…
pretty cool stuff…
Im running 3.2 now on SuSE 9.0, and I still cant use autologin….is it only my install that has this problem ??? or did kde release this thing WAY TO SOON. Autologin MUST work…anything else is emberrasing.
hi
autologin works here. file a bug with suse
I search google but could not find it.
Help ….
http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE
http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde-3.2/
I have been waiting on this for about 4-5 months… ever since I first looked at the 3.2 developement plans over at developer.kde.org. I hardly know what to say, its sooo nice!!
Hmm, *looks at 3.3 developement plans*, anyone know when this ones getting released? Just kidding.
Way to go anyone reading this who has worked on this release, its quiet an achievment, dispite all the people who will likely mention GNOME 2.5.3 being released (they seem to think anyone cares or something).
Thankyou again for releasing the best version of the best desktop available, for any operating system, full stop. It took a long time to be released, but its curtainly well worth it, the KDE developers rule!
When i had mandrake 9.2 installed on my system, i have downloaded the mandrake 10 beta ‘s isos, and with urpmi adding sources (the cds rpms), deleting the old kde rpm’s, and installing the new one with the mdk10-beta kde3.2 rpms…
hmm lets see the newest version of kcontrol (yay) or the revised developement version of the gconf-editor. snicker
Umm, I hardly think that hiding everything from the user makes it easier or more efficient. GConf is the worst thing to ever happen to GNOME, and the HIG cripples any application that tried to comply to it.
I spend more time looking for how I configure something with GNOME (without having to use GConf or edit files) then I do actually doing anything, how is this productive?
KDE has made many improvements with context menu’s etc, trying to clarify curtain things, but even if they hadn’t done that, it curtainly beats GNOME hands down, GNOME is illogical, slow, and shows many terrible design flaws.
What you think of as GNOME is probably just a bunch of applications. When I say GNOME, I mean Nautilus, Bonobo, and Gnome-Panel, things like that, the actual desktop environment. Everything about GNOME is reminicent of a bad joke.
At least with QtGTK, I will no longer have to put up with Bonobo any more though, it will replace those UI’s with the equivelent Kparts hopefully.
Sorry to anyone that is reading this and is sick of GNOME vs KDE crap, but he was replying to me, and I am bored
>> Im running 3.2 now on SuSE 9.0, and I still cant use autologin….is it only my install that has this problem ??? or did kde release this thing WAY TO SOON. Autologin MUST work…anything else is emberrasing.
I had problems with it in KDE 3.2 beta2 on SUSE 9.0 (the newest version of KDE I have used).
i also dont like GConf one bit, especially the xml file format and all damn directories that makes it impossible for me to edit files and configuration “by hand”. if kde should leave their much more intuitive way of storing configuration for something horrible like gconf i dont know what i will do…
Its not just the configuring of text files, or the format, its the fact that even newcomers to linux must decifer these things as soon as they come across something that can’t be configured with a frontend. Its embarrasing how little the GNOME configuration tools (other then GConf) can do. The goal of GNOME is apparently to make things as user freindly as possible, but GConf (plus the lack of other ways to configure curtain things) and the implementation of vFolders are just confusing for people who are comming from other operating systems.
GNOME users constantly complain about KDE, but I have tried so hard to like GNOME, and just can’t. Nothing I want to do can easily be accomplished. I will never get over needing to install a browser so I can use the default browser, that just seems redundent to me.
GNOME seems like its going further and further from its stated goals – more relience on vFolders, even “simpler” configuration dialogs, etc. These things do not make the desktop more freindly, they highten the learning curve. Most users don’t want to have to think just so they can change the contents of a toolbar, they just want to be able to do it. Most users don’t care how things are laid out, they just want to find what they are looking for. Most users don’t care about a HIG, they just want apps to be feature rich and not confusing. Most users just want to get stuff done, and they don’t care how they accomplish it.
I’m *so* glad that this release isn’t like KDE 3.0, where it didn’t make it into unstable for months! On the first day, damn that’s fast
What’s more, it’s already in stable as well! Fast indeed.
I spend more time looking for how I configure something with GNOME (without having to use GConf or edit files) then I do actually doing anything, how is this productive?
Two DEs, two different philosophies. The GNOME team wants to offer a nice and minimalistic DE that you don’t need to configure. Changing your environment shouldn’t hinder production unless you change it every day… and you’re not doing something productive when you change it every day, anyway.
KDE has made many improvements with context menu’s etc, trying to clarify curtain things, but even if they hadn’t done that, it curtainly beats GNOME hands down, GNOME is illogical, slow, and shows many terrible design flaws.
Your arguments don’t hold much weight… but it’s not like I want to start a discussion on this. It’s just a comment.
i also dont like GConf one bit, especially the xml file format and all damn directories that makes it impossible for me to edit files and configuration “by hand”. if kde should leave their much more intuitive way of storing configuration for something horrible like gconf i dont know what i will do…
Well, it’s not a big issue as you shouldn’t have to edit files by hand, anyway.
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To be back on topic, I’m eager to see how good this new it. Somebody tried it? Any word on performance or stability compared to KDE 3.1?
I have a pentium III 350 laptop with 192 MB. The difference is incredible. KDE 3.2 is way faster. Apps are snappy. It takes more or less the same time to start up. I won’t buy a new laptop soon.
I don’t know about machines with less memory or more processor power.
I guess this is a result of the kde-optimize efforts.
If you’re knowledgable enough to install and run Linux then the extra options on context menus shouldn’t be all that confusing. As a long time *cough* Windows power-user *hack* switching to Linux I found KDE to be very easy to use. I actually like the fact that you can do almost everything (zip, view, edit, email, etc) by right clicking in Konquerer.
I do agree that it would probably be alot harder for someone who’s not very comfortable with computers, though. Someone oughta develop a KDE-Lite that retains the major functionality but cleans up the menus to make it more newbie friendly. Or maybe Lycoris/Lindows/Xandros/etc. have already done this?
I’ve not used GNOME much so I can’t honestly compare the two.
Oke there are plenty ftp’s for Fedora but are there already yum-repositories?
Does anybody have anything bad to report on the SUSE 9.0 RPMs in addition to the autologin issue somebody mentioned above?
The README file sounds quite scary (no security updates, you are on your own, Qt 3.3 is actually a pre-release version, yadda yadda). Is this standard boilerplate stuff, or are the RPMs seriously “experimental”?
Thanks!
M
Well I got the best Linux system on my laptop:)
kernel-2.6.2-rc3
Dropline Gnome
Ximian OOo
and…
KDE 3.2
It’s Slackware 9.1! It works great!
KDE 3.2 rulez!
KDE base now builds quite handilly under DragonFly
Mind you, KDE (everything) compiles much more easilly on most anything else
Just looked at the planned features of v3.3
Make kdelibs compile (and run) without dependencies on X11, for example useful for qt/embedded or qt/mac. Holger Schroeder <[email protected]>
Does that mean KDE apps can run on Windows?
anybody??
Anyone else notice that the GNOME thread was full of KDE trolls but that there’s no GNOME users trolling the KDE thread? </troll>
On that note, while i’m a hardcore GNOME fan, i will test out KDE 3.2 to see what the fuss is all about…I haven’t like KDE in previous incarnations, though…or maybe it’s just that crippled Fedora KDE package.
I only encountered a single problem so far with SUSE 9.0 RPMs and that is plastik.rpm doesn’t work with KDE 3.2 and I have to let it go. Plastik color is still available though and thinkeramik style is just an awesome counterpart.
Everything else is very stable. Oh, well. I have lots of red words in this comment but hey at least the konqueror’s spelling checker is working 😉
Definitely a must upgrade!
“Well, it’s not a big issue as you shouldn’t have to edit files by hand, anyway.
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flexibility please
you shouldnt _have_to_ but its very nice if you _can_ edit config files by hand. what is the point of not giving power users this alternative to guis, wizards and some special command line tool that takes time to learn?
Looks promising. I’m not a big fan of KDE (I had some display and stability issues with it) but I’ll give it a try this weekend.
I really don’t see why they should give that flexibility. This database isn’t for daemons or a command-line program. Configuring a GUI with vi is just… well, strange to me.
Anyway, some will prefer configuration files, others will favor a central database. I personally think that a central database in XML is far more convenient for developers but I suppose not everybody think the same way.
“I really don’t see why they should give that flexibility.”
well maybe some admin wants to edit the config remotely without a GUI or setup mandatory or default values etc. perhaps the gui cant even be started (god forbid) because of config-errors.
Hi,
get it here
ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/st…
189 MB
Cheers mate!
Nice! thanks
KDE 3.2 is really the most polished desktop environemnt for Linux, now wonder with a release cycle that is one year long I wouldn’t expect anything less.
Anyone know of any Mandrake 9.2 rpms? If so let me know I’d really appreciate it.
Anyone got any links to screenshots?
Thanks.
I upgraded using apt-get and synaptic for suse 9.0.
The packagers are http://www.suse.de/feedback.
After downloading the packages, synaptic failed to install them on the first attempt because kb3 and kaffein depend on the kde 3.1.4 libraries (synaptic didn’t figure out to remove these). So I informed synaptic to remove these packages and then tried again, and everything installed smoothly.
When I logged out of my desktop, kdm was bugging out and I was dropped to the first virtual terminal login. This was most likely due to the fact that the old kdm was still in memory. To repair the problem, I logged in as root, went into runlevel 3 (init 3), executed SuSEconfig, and then started runlevel 5 (init 5).
I created a fresh new user account to test the desktop.
Here are some initial problems that I’ve encountered:
1. kdm does not give gnome as a session option, even though /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc contains gnome as one of the session optins. I know this file is being used since it’s being modified after I try to configure kdm using the Control Center. For example, I changed the theme kdm uses and the theme changes in this file accordingly.
2. The SuSE menu’s have not been completely preserved. I believe the kmenu is not finding the desktop files in /opt/gnome/share/applications are not found in the kde menu. So, mozilla, gaim and a few other apps are missing from the menu.
3. Configuring kdm with the Control Center doesn’t allow one to add additional sessions.
4. The YaST modules in the Control Center are not working properly. This is no big deal and probably expected.
Overall, I’m impressed with 3.2 and grateful that SuSE made the packages. The bootup time has not really improved, but it does seem more responsive than 3.1.4.
I’m running on a 850 MHz laptop with a 4800rpm drive and 392 MB of ram. I should notice some speed improvements if there are any.
Konqueror as a web browser has really improved. I love the spell checking feature for text widgets.
I’m also happy that updating to QT 3.3 didn’t break yast.
Hope that was helpful for some of you….
They’re starting to hit the mirrors, I’m currently installing them.
Check out these links:
http://speakeasy.rpmfind.net
http://fr2.rpmfind.net
You can also check the ftp sites:
ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandr…
Note: these packages are for cooker, the experimental Mandrake distribution. If you don’t know what cooker is, you’re probably better to wait until someone packages them for 9.2 (or upgrade to 10.0 when it comes out).
Any swaret packes ready yet?
Whoops, I mean swaret packages sorry too exicted!
> I personally think that a central database in XML is far
> more convenient for developers but I suppose not everybody
> think the same way.
Actually, not. Developers don’t have to worry about config files, KConfig does that for them. The KDE .ini style config parser is highly optimized, what makes KDE applications faster. Having to process XML for simple things such as config files would be overkill. And that’s one of the reasons why KDE is quickly becoming the fastest complete DE for Linux systems without removing anything while GNOME keeps getting slower even though it adopted a minimalistic philosophy.
> if kde should leave their much more intuitive way of storing
> configuration for something horrible like gconf i dont know
> what i will do…
No need to worry. It won’t.
Where are the screenshots, hasn’t anyone learned aything about marketing and hype?
You obviously weren’t around earlier when KDE got released. They already couldn’t handle the load at kde.org, why would they have wanted more people being unable to access the site.
Lots of people have talked about the KDE 3.2 screenshots, they will come to, just not for a couple of days apparently.
“Does that mean KDE apps can run on Windows?”
They actually already can to some extent, via cygwin-kde. I would recommend taking the time to do it, but it curtainly can be done.
The goal of Qt is to be cross platform, perhaps KDE wishes to commit more to this goal. I don’t actually recall seeing that stated plan for the 3.3 release, but it curtainly will be a good thing if it is done.
All that the desktop should really depend on anyway is the toolkit it uses, Qt/mac doesn’t need X, the embedded version doesn’t either, there is no reason why Qt/X11 should, although I feel a name change may be in order if this is accomplished
Please tell me how the “highly optimized config parser” makes KDE applications faster. Text parsing isn’t the most difficult task for a processor unless it’s a 486 or something like that… which shouldn’t run a GUI like that, anyway.
The GNOME team didn’t developed this feature just for fun… There has to be a reason and it’s probably not to slow down their DE.
I fully agree that GNOME2 tend to be slow but I suspect it’s because of GTK2. Let’s say that it’s not the fastest toolkit around. However, it is getting faster on each release. Futhermore, faster doesn’t mean anything if anything is displayed wrong… Well, that’s my personal experience I had with KDE 3.0 and 3.1. I’ll try 3.2 though. I’m eager to see Plastik in action.
Go Debian go!
By Rayiner Hashem (IP: —.lwc.gatech.edu) – Posted on 2004-02-03 19:11:35
I’m *so* glad that this release isn’t like KDE 3.0, where it didn’t make it into unstable for months! On the first day, damn that’s fast
Damn, I just updated my list and its still 3.1.5 what gives ?
rayiner do you have any specific sources your using for kde 3.2 ?
I use rpmfind as one of my sources for urpmi when I want something new that ain’t been released yet by other users.
Well it’s not in official unstable nor in experimental yet. Check out previous comments, there you’ll find link to Debian Kde3.2 Wiki. It will tell you what to do.
I think I’ll wait it to hit experimental, since my current 3.2.0+cvs[some date]+as1 is working somewhat ok. I took it from apt-get.org listings.
Hey yeah.. i had the orth +cvs aswell.. but it the libqt3mc102 or whatever became more uptodate in unstable than that source.. so it wanted to remove the whole of kde.. i left it alone for about a week but had to update so i allowed it to remove the whole of kde..
ive used this from the wiki:
# kde 3.2 release
deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde-3.2/ ./
deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.1.95/ ./
the bab isnt complete 3.2 and cheney’s is 3.195 they both work well together in install.. but once you login with kdm you cant actually log into kde as in it dont work, basically waste of time.
so im gonna wait it out aswell…
as it goes im as comfortable in gnome as in kde i like them both. so i can wait and ive been using kde 3.2 cvs for time aswell, i already know what to expect.. but once you use the 3.2 you cant go back to 3.1, 3.1 just sucks in comparison.
🙂
Rayiner if you have a working source of 3.2 id be very grateful for the info, thanks.
http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=Screenshots
heres some sceenshots i took a few months back of 3.2 in cvs.. it was actually pretty stable then.
http://www.vnet.ndirect.co.uk/screenshots/snapshot.png
http://www.vnet.ndirect.co.uk/screenshots/snapshot1.png
http://www.vnet.ndirect.co.uk/screenshots/snapshot2.png
I was just wondering …….
In KDE 3.1.4 KCalc doesnt have a basic function such as square Root.
Does KCalc in 3.2 now come with this and if not is there some specific reason for this not being included …..
Cheers,
madmax
Try INV x^2
I think KDE is really ready for the desktop. This latest realease underscores that point. I agree with what Frank said about Gnome. I also tried very hard to like and use it, but it just didn’t do it for me. I guess if you use RedHat or Mandrake which uses wrappers like BlueCurve and Galaxy(?) then Gnome would be easier to use.
WE LOVE IT!
Horrible! The most horrible KDE I’ve ever seen.
Never thought I would ever have such problems with KDE.
It hangs every Intel machine that runs Fedora.
(Well, sometimes… If you try to work… Not only “enjoy using it”!)
You click a virtual desktop and nothing happens (sometimes,
it goes to that virtual desktop after a double-click)!
I saw all my four desktops in the pager all illuminated and I was not sure where I was.
I had two or three crashes of X this morning.
I do not know why they happened.
The first thing I’m going to do next Monday is
to erase KDE-3.2 and fall back on 3.1.4. Then, I will
be waiting for the next release.
Any comments appreciated.
Dmitry