Mandrake Community 10.0 was released today. The public ISOs aren’t available for download yet, but club members can download it, or you can pre-order the DVD. Mandrakelinux 10.0 features: Kernel 2.6.3, XFree86 4.3, Glibc 2.3.3 with Native POSIX Threads Library (NPTL), GCC 3.3.2, Apache 2.0.48, Samba 3.0.2, MySQL 4.0.18, ProFTPD 1.2.9, Postfix 2.0.18, OpenSSH 3.6.1p2 KDE 3.2, GNOME 2.4.2, IceWM 1.2.13 OpenOffice.org 1.1, KOffice 1.3.7, Gnumeric 1.2.6 Mozilla 1.6, The GIMP 1.2.5, XMMS 1.2.9 and more.
was waiting for this for my reinstall.. (was still running my 1st RH 7.2 install but its getting old now) so lets let the club members find the serious bugs and then I will get the public ISO.. and then lets try to keep it running a few yrs again
I bought the Mandrake 9.1 and 9.2 Powerpacks, and the money was well spent. I intend to buy the 10.0 Powerpack as well, when it comes out. So I am willing to pay money to get a good product.
My question is this: what benefits does the Mandrake Club give me? I don’t need support, and I can get updates and bugfixes without joining Mandrake Club. So the only thing I might be interested in is additional RPMs that “just work”, so I don’t have to download and compile from source so much. The question is, a lot of the stuff I want is things like win32 codecs for Mplayer and libdvdcss, which are legally questionable enough not to be included in the Mandrake Powerpacks. Will those things be available via Mandrake Club? If not, what are the benefits of Mandrake Club? I’d like to hear about your experience with Mandrake Club if you have joined.
(I’m not interested in joining the Club just so I can be the first to download the newest release–I can wait a few weeks or months to get my Powerpack in the mail. That may be important to some people–it would have been important to me a couple of years ago–but it’s not something I care about anymore.)
Also: in the interest of full disclosure, I have cross-posted my question to PCLinuxOnline.com. I hope that isn’t against OSNews.com policy.
Seems like they rushed this release.
The Community version got released after just one RC? Wow, I guess they really do want to depend on the club for bug reports, etc. Not a bad idea as long as the club members are OK with it.
From http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/10.0/features/:
“Kontour is a vector drawing application similar to Corel Draw and Adobe Illustrator” – how many years is the name Kontour now dead?
Actaully there were 2 Beta releases,then one RC. I am running beta 2, and haven’t found any bugs yet, other than I am having a hard time install kopete, pine, and kmail from rpms.
Then again i am waiting for knoppix 3.4 with a 2.6 and I will be able to use apt-get.
Are they going through with the name change or not?
I’ve been waiting for this because I’ve used Red Hat and even Fedora 1 and none of those could see my S-ATA RAID (Promise). Mandrake 9.2 however, had no problem. Plus 10.0 comes with KDE 3.2 which I’d like to try out.
I guess I’ll wait for the public ISOs to be released.
kenny: you get those from PLF. http://plf.zarb.org/
there will be no name change. MDK have appealed against the legal decision mandating a change and will be called Mandrake at least until that appeal finishes, in several years’ time.
The ISOs released to the public in a month will be the same as the ones just released to the Club. I think people are getting mixed up with the Community / Final release thing; it’s not the case that Club people are getting Community and in a month everyone else will get Final. Club people are getting Community a month early, everyone else gets the *same* ISOs a month later. It’s a perk for club members. The same thing happened with 9.2. Of course, there’s nothing to stop Club members passing the ISOs out to non-club members once they have them. The “stable” release will be released to everyone in several months’ time.
“Are they going through with the name change or not?”
They made an appeal. The final call on wether they
do have to change their name or not will be out…. in
about 4 to 6 years according to MDK.
I noticed from the screenshots at the MDK page that Gnome still looks pretty much the same, but on your screenshots when you were showing Slackware 9.1, it looked completely different. Was that because of Dropline or just a different theme?
Different themes and the fact Slackware uses the default Gnome settings.
The ISOs should be available to everyone on the 12th, so you will not have to wait a month.
This is the big advantage of the club, you get the releases a week or 2 early. There are different levels to the club, the upper ones get an addition CD with fixes and rpms.
I’ve been using cooker and my cdrom doesn’t work with kernel 2.6.3.3 (I haven’t tried 2.6.3.4 yet). Everything works fine with the 2.4 kernel. What kernel version are they using with this release?
” 20040304 10.0 Community Download edition (4 CDs) to all club members
Powerpack edition (5 CDs) to silver and above club members
20040312 10.0 Download 3 first CDs of download edition released to everyone
20040328 10.0 Official ”
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10
This is the first time that everything works “out of the iso”I have configured quite some windows, and tried Linux before, but it was always a hassle to get Internet and the local network working just fine.
This time, I didn`t even had to configure anything. Internet just appeared and the Samba network too. Even easier than Windows.
Geert
whats new stuff in there? 2.6.0 included is it SELinux ok thanks
What a waste of 8 hours. Bit torrent really blows wind. In all of 8 hours i downloaded 77 mb with only 178 hours left to go. And i have a fast dsl connection. Since mandrake moved to bittorrent for downloading, i haven’t be able to download anything. My membership expires in 12 days and i won’t be renewing.
To have fast BitTorrent you HAVE to open some firewall ports, otherwise it will crawl. Read their FAQ for more.
I downloaded the iso’s via bittorrent, pretty fast. Got it in about 15 minutes. Of course, I work at a university that has a really fast connection. I then let the upload go for about another half an hour a 300 kbs/sec. Just to be nice…
I hate p2p file sharing, because of theft of copyrighted material, which put me off of BitTorrent at first. But when I realized it could be used to download big stuff and help others also get it, I started to really use it. I got Mdk 10 beta and RC with it, Fedora, GNUStep live cd, and Unreal Tornament 2004 linux demo with it. It works just as good as direct HTTP/FTP transfers for me…
Oh, and UT2004 and Mdk10 are already sold as far as I am concerned As soon as they become available.
I just needed a “free” version of Mandrake with the right rpms and with more stability. So I downloaded PCLinuxOS wich is Based on MDK 9.2. Upgraded to KDE 3.2 without problems…how about Mandrake 9.2
Soon there will be a version with kernel 2.6.3 and KDE 3.2
Couldn’t disagree more with raydi – Bittorrent works great and download much faster then the usual FTP/HTTP sites. Of course, it starts slow but after a few minutes it really picks up. It is the only donwload method that can take full advantage of my cable modem.
I dont know what it is, but I still dont like Mandrake that much. I actually paid for their club to help them out, but I never actually end up using their distro. It works well enough, and certainly has on the of the best installers, but for some reason I just dont like it. Recently I took Eugenia’s advice and I purchased the latest Slackware and then installed Dropline Gnome, and just one word, sweet. As a desktop, it seems way faster than any other distro I have used, and seems really stable, which has not always been the case with Mandrake.
Their press release says that 10.0 is free for “contributors”. How do you get to be considered a contributor?
Their press release says that 10.0 is free for “contributors”. How do you get to be considered a contributor?
You are usually a contributor if you maintain a package either in main or contribs, or are a translator.
Join the Mandrake-Club as a Silver memeber
This is just patently false.
Smeat!
Even with all firewall disabled. With the LinkSys port 6881 to 6889 open (forwarded), it’s still painfully slow to download…. I’m getting 5k/sec… On cable modem!
If you have trouble using BT then you can use the HTTP or FTP servers that are available. Check the download page for more details on that. BT is intended to prevent servers from getting overloaded, but if it is really too slow then you should go for FTP.
Prior to version 3.2, BitTorrent by default uses ports in the range of 6881-6889. As of 3.2 and later, the range has been extended to 6881-6999.
You need to limit your upload rate. If you leave it to max, you don’t have enough upload for yourself and download rate drops. For DSL 512, limit to 8-12 kB/s. The bittorrent-shadowsclient (in contribs) allows you to easily change this.