Red Hat, Ximian and Debian developers are discussing the future of Gnome and its place in the desktop marketplace at Planet Gnome (scroll to read all discussions taking place). In the meantime Dropline GNOME 2.6 became available for Slackware, while the Gnome bindings have reached RC status.
Gnomers Blog on Future of Gnome; Dropline Gnome 2.6 Released
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Anyone else find gnome-terminal to be *extremely* broken on freebsd 5.2.1? For gnome 2.6.0 of course.
Question:
Is Dropline Gnome kind of like Ximian desktop for SuSE/Redhat distros?
Nope, I never have seen gnome-terminal broke. How did you upgrade your GNOME?
> Is Dropline Gnome kind of like Ximian desktop for SuSE/Redhat distros?
yes and no… dropline is polished and often updated gnome distribution for slackware, but not as much hacked as ximian is. (build scripts are builic available so you could compare
I didn’t have any window managers installed (except like twm) before I did a portinstall gnome.
The gnome-terminal runs horribly slow. Like it takes several minutes for it to fully load up. Then it takes another 2 minutes before it will let me type in it. And after I’ve typed in it, it takes few more minutes before anything happens if anything happens at all. If I click close, it takes a minute and then safes something along the lines of “This application is not responding, force quit or cancel”.
My system is a pentium IV 3.2 ghz with 512 of ram.
Is the site back to the old layout now? I thought the new one was terrible and so hard to navigate.
I think what is becoming increasingly obvious is that gnome is a developmental dead end. I sit here on my kde 3.2.1 setup and look at the wealth of features it has, and the integration between the various applications. The Plastik theme is very cool and with a bit of configuration I can have a very cool system. Gnome on the other hand is a mess that lack cohesion between components. Features that are trivially implemented in KDE seem to require major work in gnome.
So come on gnome fan boys, can you honestly say gnome is not architecturally brain damaged? QT has a beautiful API, GTK has a horrible mess of bits and pieces
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You think GNOME is a developmental dead end, why? There is no content to your post. You like a theme that KDE ships. You can configure KDE to be “kool”. You say QT is “beautiful” but GTK+ is a “horrible mess”. Those are not technical evaluations and simply lead us to believe that you either aren’t a developer at all or you haven’t seriously worked with both develpment platforms. Give us some more meat and perhaps we can give a reasonable response.
You say QT is “beautiful” but GTK+ is a “horrible mess”. Those are not technical evaluations and simply lead us to believe that you either aren’t a developer at all or you haven’t seriously worked with both develpment platforms. Give us some more meat and perhaps we can give a reasonable response.
From developer’s view I can say GTK is a mess. This is not meant to be a troll, but seriously, some things that suck on GTK is that it is C. Object oriented programming is just “hot” nowadays. Well, actually developing C is ok, it is afterall very fast language. Anyway what really sucks is lack of GTK documentation and standardized APIs. GTK api changes each version way too much (just compare 2.0 vs 2.4) and documentation & guidelines are very poor.
In otherhand, QT has very standardized API, KDE has very stright guidelines that all apps need to use KParts and so on – technically Gnome has nearly all that KDE has (Bonobo, for example), but the problem is that _application do not use_ the guidelines.
I use both myself, I don’t really care which I use, they’re both good in usability but what comes for developing, I rather develop QT apps.
Just a little task: Show me good GTK documentation. Probably you can’t because there isn’t any
And once again, this is not meant to be rant, gnome developer’s have admitted it themselves that if you want seriously develope for Gnome, you need to dig into core sources. They’re working on documentation and standardization now very hard, which is good.
I have Win2K and Slackware 9.1 with droplinux-gnome installed on the same system.
On the linux side, if I try to scroll fast everything blurs, leaves trails. Before I had dropline-gnome, I was using the default gnome 2.4 – which was even worse. With gnome 2.4, if I tried to drag a window across the screen, it left trails like mad.
My system: Athlon 1600+ (1400mhz) 384MB RAM. Only 8MB of video ram. Low video ram may be a big part of the problem. Although, on the windows side, everything is very snappy.
I’m not bashing Linux. I like linux, I’m using Linux right now. But, the responsiveness of gnome lags way behind windows.
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What’s wrong with this documentation:
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/index.html