Home > Amiga & AROS > More on AmigaOS 4.0 More on AmigaOS 4.0 Eugenia Loli 2004-06-14 Amiga & AROS 25 Comments Philippe ‘Elwood’ Ferrucci has written an article about AmigaOS4 and its differences with AmigaOS 3.9. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 25 Comments 2004-06-14 6:13 pm I hab a Amiga 500 a long time ago. When Im reading these review I am starting to wish that commodore still exists. 2004-06-14 6:20 pm Commodore was almost worse than the current owners… ALMOST. 2004-06-14 7:18 pm Think Amiga should get Be’s source somehow, or, even better, start working with OpenBeOS guys to bring the one and only media platform to Amiga hardware. Since Be has many similarities to AmigaOS and also a reputation as technically advanced “media” os this would be once again an opportunity for Amiga to gain attention AND userbase AND technological advancement AND many many more. And they wouldnt have to taylor the old AmigaOS code any longer and in a second they have the best OS around. Think this would be a wise move. 2004-06-14 8:48 pm very nice reveiw, Thanks! 2004-06-14 8:52 pm How can Hyperion include such a ugly painted picture as the Internet Connection Wizard into a commercial OS? Does look like something my dad could have drawn when he was drunk! 2004-06-14 9:09 pm Yep, I’m not telling that Be and Amiga are not dead (or not in a very very deep coma-like state) which is sad but true, I’m telling that joining forces of THE media os and of THE multimeda computer platform is something to that worth a thought… 2004-06-14 9:13 pm …so you can think of it as the attack of the undead … would be nice, both Amigans and BeOS users would be satisifed I guess 2004-06-14 9:14 pm It certainly depends on what you mean by dead. I know people who still use BeOS because it does the job for them. There’s still a small but loyal Amiga community out there. I’ve been pondering getting a pegasos board for some time to use Linux and Morphos on it. I don’t need a 3GHz space heater computer, and always loved the PowerPC architecture. The problem, as with all niche hardware, is that I could probably get a Mac for less money. Well. Version 4 of AmigaOS looks very good. I always loved AmigaOS’ API. Most other APIs I’ve tried suck royally with the exception of NeXT’s and BeOS’. 2004-06-14 9:47 pm “The problem, as with all niche hardware, is that I could probably get a Mac for less money.” ..or a Pegasos with MorphOS 2004-06-14 10:48 pm i must say, after reading a little more than half ;D 2004-06-14 11:17 pm “Yep, I’m not telling that Be and Amiga are not dead (or not in a very very deep coma-like state) which is sad but true, I’m telling that joining forces of THE media os and of THE multimeda computer platform is something to that worth a thought…” AmigaOne isn’t THE multimedia computer platform. G4 cpus and old gfx cards. It was, but that’s not the same thing. 2004-06-14 11:22 pm This is what he said: “I’ve been pondering getting a pegasos board for some time to use Linux and Morphos on it. I don’t need a 3GHz space heater computer, and always loved the PowerPC architecture. The problem, as with all niche hardware, is that I could probably get a Mac for less money.” … 2004-06-15 3:03 am ick ppc bloat, ick wizards, ick purple. 2004-06-15 3:11 am You care more for the eyecandy, than for the OS itself? Have you read the article or just watched at the screenshots? Call your dad if you experience difficulties reading it. 2004-06-15 7:36 am Yes ur right, but it earned a reputation as such and think building the next generation Amiga on BeOS would be an easy and fast way of getting back that reputation, that’s what I’m telling 2004-06-15 7:39 am And one more thing, I have a G4 in my PowerBook and it is really nice, and I don’t think that a pervasive mutithreaded OS with dual or quad G5s (or even G4s in a workstation) won’t make an asskickin multimedia platform with gfx cards like 3DLabs’… 2004-06-15 1:49 pm The weekly “Amiga OS 4.0 update” is here again. 2 weeks ago, it was “our pre-release is out” last week it is “our pre-release is still out” this week it is “and yes, here is our pre-release.” Can we not get the same news repeated weekly? And for the record ar, the AmigaONE can’t run the current crop of 3Dlabs cards. 2004-06-15 1:56 pm I think this Wizard image is left over from the Netconnect software that was first released about 8 years ago. 2004-06-15 2:00 pm “And for the record ar, the AmigaONE can’t run the current crop of 3Dlabs cards.” Does that matter at this stage? You only need a card that is good enough to develop on. This is a pre-release for developers. The SNAP collection of drivers hasn’t been ported yet, so only a few cards will work. More important, IMO, are the lack of Firewire support and the lack of Unicode support. I’m beginning to get emails coded in UTF-8 (isn’t email supposed to be ASCII?). 2004-06-15 3:57 pm I’m not talking drivers, I’m talking hardware. The AGP port on the AmigaONE can’t handle the 3DLabs strict voltage requirements. Of course neither do most PC motherboards. I know that it does not work on my Athlon, for example. 2004-06-15 4:27 pm “The AGP port on the AmigaONE can’t handle the 3DLabs strict voltage requirements. Of course neither do most PC motherboards. I know that it does not work on my Athlon, for example.” In that case I would blame the designers of the card. If the voltage requirements are that strict, there should be regulators on the card itself. Sounds like a bad product to me. Do you actually mean voltage, or is the problem that the card draws a lot of current? In that case, it should have a direct connector from the power supply (4-pin plug), like a hard drive. I would again suggest that this is bad engineering. I know some users prefer badly engineered products, because loud noises and obvious over-heating make them think a product is “powerful”. Vrrrooom vrrrooom. 2004-06-15 6:56 pm If I don´t remember it wrong. All 3D Labs cards need an AGP PRo slot instead of an ordinary AGP slot that most of the motherboards have today. 2004-06-15 8:32 pm for the record Nate, I’m not talking abt the present, I’m talking abt the future if u read my posts carefuly… seems u guys just cannot comment on what u think abt my idea of joining Amiga (once THE multimedia platform) and OBOS (THE media OS replacement project) to bring about a future truly advanced multimedia platform… but I don’t care, Nate ur right, Amiga cannot run 3Dlabs card and it seems with this attitude u guys have it never will ;-((( CU 2004-06-16 9:43 pm There is no future for a dead platform. Only a rewarmed past that is more metaphor and illusion than substance, a ghost. That is what you are discussing here in both Amiga and OBOS’s case. It is a hobby project, if that. Both the AmigaOS and OBOS are playing “catch-up” by having to re-awaken design decisions made in different era, with no clue of the current playfield. The only real solution is a whole-scale forward-looking design, like QNX, MorphOS and NewOS. Stop trying to cling to the shadow of the old, embrace the new. Change is good. 2004-06-22 12:30 pm AmigaOS design has nothing to blame for the coma of Amiga platform. Time will tell how well the design succeeds now when R&D has been restarted. I think it beats QNX and NewOS as a desktop platform because of the legacy (users, application SW) of almost 20 years. MorphOS is different, more clever, because it uses this “dead platform” as a stepping stone for something else. Time will tell if MorphOS ever delivers much more than AmigaOS imitation. Without AmigaOS design and flexibility, MorphOS would not even exist today.