Mozilla 1.0 is only one month away according to the latest roadmap. Today, the Mozilla folks released version 0.9.9 which brings MathML, TTF support under Unix, ZLib security fixes, SOAP scripts support and many additional bug fixes.
The Mozilla Project Releases Version 0.9.9
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because it does n ot work….it works with Netscape, but not mozilla.
Does anyone know what is meant by “SOAP scripts?” Can Mozilla be controlled, like AppleScript can control IE, with SOAP calls?
Does anyone else find the speed of the application unbearable? Perhaps this is only the case under Mac OS X and Solaris 8, the only platforms I’ve used various builds of Mozilla. 0.9.8 and nightly builds after that were slow, and it seems 0.9.9 still is. I didn’t think I was pushing it too hard, but I tend to have around 10-15 tabs open at a time, and Mozilla crawls. Anyone else, or do I just suck?
I think that the most important product of the Mozilla Project in the long run is not the browser suite but rather its infrastructure. It is probably the best cross-platform toolkit that we have today. A visit to <a href=”http://www.mozdev.org“>mozdev.org reveals all sorts of innovative Mozilla-based projects. Gecko is being used to make fine pieces of software, including Galeon and Nautilus. AOL plans to make their next browser Gecko-based, meaning that a third of all American Internet subscribers will be using a standards-compliant browser. Bugzilla is being used by the GNOME Project, Red Hat, Mandrakesoft and many others. Tinderbox is also popular. This is Mozilla’s legacy.
Mozilla runs like a dream on Windows 2000.
IE has been more-or-less dumped from my desktop.
> IE has been more-or-less dumped from my desktop.
It may not be on your desktop, but it’s still hogging RAM and HDD space in the background, and you can’t remove it because MS doesn’t let you…
IMHO, this is the biggest obstacle to Mozilla acceptance on the Windows platform. I have heard Windows users bitch and whine about Mozilla’s hard drive and memory footprints and how long it takes to load. Most are blissfully unaware of (or choose to ignore) the fact that IE is bundled and commingled with Windows and cannot be removed. Back when I used to use Win98, I used <a href=”http://www.98lite.net/“>98lite to remove IE. My system was much faster and more stable after that.
Anyway, I’m glad to see that not everyone is falling for the hype.
the beautiful new full screen mode in 0.99! Now Mozilla-browsing is a real pleasure… impress your friends with browsing an a fast lan with your designer-laptop, jumping through your bookmarks in the sidebar – i love it!
Whell I sauyw Mozilal tonight, anfd I am using a nightley blid to qwrite this, an d it aitnt too bad.. Accept I am nice adn drnuc from a night for drinkgin, but Anyways, I like mozilla Espceccially fro the new skilns whic makes the address bar nice and small who I like it.
Well happy esurfing wiht mozilas from your nice feirend DC.
Byue/
If you have speed issues, Galeon is real nice
http://galeon.sourceforge.net
Hi there,
Anyone used the new IEradicator? Looks like it might be cool.
Paddy
So, does anybody have an idea when the 0.9.9 BeOS build will arrive?
Should be this week… I believe fyysik was working on that.
There already is a “trunk” release here: http://www.bebits.com/app/2715
I’ll bug fyysik or do a proper compile later this week.
-Chris Simmons,
Avid BeOS User.
[email protected]
“It may not be on your desktop, but it’s still hogging RAM and HDD space in the background, and you can’t remove it because MS doesn’t let you…
IMHO, this is the biggest obstacle to Mozilla acceptance on the Windows platform.”
Yes, it sure is. I use the Mozilla “fast start engine”, but it still bothers me to know that IE is still there in the background eating my resources. I really, really wish there was a way to remove IE and use Mozilla. Maybe something like Linux Nautilus.
> If you have speed issues, Galeon is real nice
> http://galeon.sourceforge.net
Galeon is the <u>best</u> browser that I’ve ever used. I used to be a browser nomad: I would keep several browsers open at once and switch between them depending on the site I was visiting. Once Galeon hit the 0.12 stage, I knew that I had found what I was looking for. Galeon is stable (I’m using the 1.1.3 developer release and it never crashes), feature-packed and fast (faster than Mozilla, Konqueror and Opera). It is developed at a lightning pace, with improvements being made all the time.
Well, they just announced the release last night, and they don’t tell the developers, or at least I’m not on any list for that. I’m at work now, but my machine is building it at home as we speak (if it’s not done already). There are a few patches I need to apply that were committed to the trunk, but not the 0.9.9 branch. So, hopefully tonight the BeOS build should be available at mozilla.org.
-paul
I like mozilla, it renders all of the pages i go to perfectly. The only thing i dont like about it is the fact that it takes a whole lot of memory. Its not rare that i see it eating over 100megs of RAM on my box, which is too much for my liking. I upgraded from 0.9.5 to 0.9.8 this weekend and it seems to be a whole lot snappier, but that could just be cause i didnt have as many apps open this morning when i went to open up mozilla.
Looking forward to it!
Hoping for much better MTBF.
ciao
yc
Although opera.com or opera.no or any opera domains looks ugly on my mozilla (0.9.9)
“The BeOS port now supports SSL and has gfx speed improvements.”
I think some of the MTBF issues had to do with gfx so let’s hope all the issues have been squashed!
ciao
yc
As far as I’m aware its only the freeze for v1.0 in a months time.
What happens when it hits 1.0 .. then what? Will we continue to see updates, or will Netscape pull the plug and then we’ll only have Netscape’s version?
no, they cannot pull the plug on open code…though I have not read the licence so who knows…..but anyway, they plan to have bug fix releases through out the 1.x cycle along with minor updates and feature tweaks. no more huge cool new features I am afraid….it is what it is now…..I hope we like it, and perhaps they can speed it up by optimizing the code better and a littlemore streem lining….speed!!!!!
next, what we need is a Open source IE remover like the lite98 stuff…then the installer can give you the option to get ride of IE all together from your system:-)
>What happens when it hits 1.0 .. then what? Will we continue >to see updates, or will Netscape pull the plug and then we’ll >only have Netscape’s version?
From what i have read when mozilla reaches 1.0 they will continue development like before only now they will start adding features or whatever that didnt get in 1.0 because they wanted to focus on bugfixes and such.
i havent been able to dl .99 though. their server was messing up last night and now the dl doesnt even work. hopefully will be back soon.
well, the reason that the servers were messed up was because slashdot got wind of it. those servers will not work right for a day or two because of all the traffic.
<a href=”http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html“>Mozilla Roadmap
Looks like Galeon 1.2.0 is up on the sf download page. No mention on the webpage yet, but there are RPMs and tgz’s at:
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http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6999
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Ben
like there’s any reason to use mozilla in Windows and Linux when there’s Opera.
oh. and like there’s any reason to use Windows or Linux when there’s BeOS
/me ducks
I think Mozilla should have ended a while ago. It is a disappointment to any Linux user, since there is no decent browser to browse with. I can’t understand how you can make so good remarks on Mozilla 0.9.9.9.9… Maybe you use a different software/source than I do. The Linux lovers really can make a fool of themselfs, can’t you see the reality ?
“The Linux lovers really can make a fool of themselfs, can’t you see the reality ?”
<sarcasm>
They sure can…
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… but I’m more disapointed with Linux in general. Granted, I like it much better than Windows, which is why I use it at work. If BeOS had a Sun supported JVM, I’d use that at work instead, it’s much more stable under Heavy loads. I have RH 7.2 at work, and if the memory usage gets up to my physical limit and starts going to swap, man, does it stutter, shake and wease. Thank God I have 512M of memory, and I only go above that every other day!
what kernel are you using? if you are using a standard RH 7.2 install, you have the old VM which had problems, they fixed it and you should install the latest Kernel….it is much more improoved.
The absolute latest kernel locks up on me when using mpg123. But, you have proven my point. The whole 2.4.x series is a mess. Hopefully it gets better, and I’m sure it will, but for now, it’s not good, and, I’m not about to go and build the latest 2.4.x kernel, as it is my work machine, and I don’t have the time to waste building kernels.
Mozilla had been kinda slow on 10.1 (powerbook g4 500) but it is hauling ass now. Everything picked up, page rendering and gui… impressive stuff. Now if only the Chimera (Cocoa Mozilla) folks could put out 0.2!
As of today I’ve ditched IE for regular browsing… finally a Mozilla release that made me do this full time.
Now what browser company wants to make form box (text editing) a better user expierence?
As of today I’ve ditched IE for regular browsing… finally a Mozilla release that made me do this full time.
Same here, except I’m going from Opera to Moz on win32.
I can only account these reports of performance issues on linux to be due to misconfiguration. If you configure X11 correctly and not use a kernel that is known to have virtual memory problems, then Mozilla should run along quite nicely. I’m browsing this site as we speak from 0.9.9, and it’s the best version yet to come out of the open source forge. How can all these people complain about something that costed them nothing in the first place. If they can do better, then, by all means, they should write there own.
“The absolute latest kernel locks up on me when using mpg123. But, you have proven my point. The whole 2.4.x series is a mess. Hopefully it gets better, and I’m sure it will, but for now, it’s not good, and, I’m not about to go and build the latest 2.4.x kernel, as it is my work machine, and I don’t have the time to waste building kernels.”
Make sure don’t use GCC 3.X to compile the kernel. I couldn’t figure out why my kernel kept locking up until compiled using GCC 2.96. 3.X seems to screw it up somehow. I’m running kernel 2.4.19, I haven’t had a kernel lockup since I installed it.
The 2.5.X series kernels are experimental in nature. You can complain if they don’t work correctly. 2.4.19 is stable, and I recommend that you use it.
The latest released stable kernel is 2.4.18 though, not 2.4.19.
Like I said before, I don’t want to build a kernel. I’m also not trying to complain. I do like linux way more than windows, but RH is not releasing anything past 2.4.9. I’ll build kernels at home, but I am not going to waste my employer’s money on my time rebuilding kernels! btw, it’s my lunch break right now