This second Debian-Installer release candidate is expected to be the final release of the installer for Debian 3.1 (sarge). Limited changes have been made to the installer since the pre-rc2 release last month. but there are a few: Support for LVM volumes on software RAID, Experimental support for installing with the 2.6 kernel on the hppa architecture, Lots of improvements to the installation manual.
Debian-Installer RC 2 Available
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I recently downloaded the new Sarge net-install image last night to install on my Toshiba notebook. The installer would not start with the 2.6 kernel. The installer worked when the regular 2.4 kernel was used. Other than this bit, everything worked great. Just wished I could have installed the 2.6 kernel from the start instead of having to download and compile my own.
can someone post screenshots of this?
http://people.debian.org/~madduck/d-i/screenshots/
is it closed source? XandrOS is one of the only successful installers for my hardware. Ubuntu also works, but Red Hat has always choked.
OK, I’ll settle for anything NOT anaconda..
is it closed source?
Uhh, this is DEBIAN we are talking about here. Of course it is FOSS. That’s what they are all about.
The Debian installer has to be able to support 10+ different archs. Something as complicated as the Xandros installer would be a bitch to maintain.
If you havent given the new installer a try, be sure to, its really slick.
I really enjoy Debian installer. Arrow, arrow, enter, enter, type, type, reboot, type, arrow, Debian. 🙂
I don’t understand why you’d have to compile 2.6. Just install the 2.6 meta package for your architecture and you’ll always have the latest kernel. You don’t need your installer to do it and it’s a lot easier than recompiling for every new kernel release.
the tentative date the installer will come out of the release candidate stages? I poked around but wasn’t able to find anything useful.
Thanks!
The new installer makes installing the base system as easy as anything.
But from there on it is far from easy. Packages choice is very awkward (tasksel)
And then the pain of configuring X.
I did it the last time in less than two hours, but nobody can convince me that a novice, let alone a newbie, could do it without an awful lot of effort.
The Progeny installer on the other hand couldn’t be easier, but they use their own repositories. I have found it quite difficult to convert Progeny to Debian Proper.
Good job that somebody within Debian is trying to port YaST.
That would make of Debian the truly ideal distro: apt-get + YaST, what a winning combination!
But how long is it going to take?
Try aptitude. One of the best package manager I’ve seen on Debian.
Stick to aptitude and manual apt-get/dpkg, it takes a while to master but the results are worth it trust me.
I know all about that, and in fact aptitude is my favourite.
But a less knowledgeable user will hardly know about apt-get, let alone aptitude.
And then: # aptitude install…oh wait a moment, what am I supposed to install? (new user, in case it wasn’t clear enough)
Ubuntu also works
AFAIK, the Ubuntu installer is the new Sarge installer, with a few mods.
I’ve been known to share some pretty divisive opinions here, but you, darius, take the cake for troll of the day.
How could the installer possibly be athiest?
What kind of religion can a piece of software have (or not have).
Crawl back under a bridge.
<quote>The new installer makes installing the base system as easy as anything.
But from there on it is far from easy. Packages choice is very awkward (tasksel)</quote>
From there there is no Debian-Installer,
there is old base-config from there.
<quote>And then: # aptitude install…oh wait a moment, what am I supposed to install? (new user, in case it wasn’t clear enough)</quote>
Then let new user try
Synaptic.
“I did it the last time in less than two hours, but nobody can convince me that a novice, let alone a newbie, could do it without an awful lot of effort.”
Hmm, last week, i installed it in 45 minutes with the “pre-rc2” net-installer,i took all the defaults, skipped tasksel, at the end i installed:
x-window-system-core
menu
aterm
locales
vim
icewm
icewm-themes
firehol
I took the default partitioning and kernel 2.4.27, this week installed the kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 with apt-get, no questions to answer, no problems, it even updated grub automatically, all i had to do was reboot.
Any more hand-holding, and i would have to be burped!
Synaptic works only after you have X and a Window Manager up and running, not before.
45 minutes or 2 hours doesn’t make so much difference. It depends on your bandwidth, how much you install, and if any configuration is included.
But you are once again you are proving my point: you skipped tasksel and you knew what to install. I know it as well.
What about Joe User?
“But you are once again you are proving my point:”
should be: “but once again you are proving my point”
I’m trying to set up a box using RC2 but its hanging at ‘Retrieving debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_main_binary-i386_Packages…’
Tried setting up the box with previous installer at lunch time but download of packages was extremely slow. Maybe Debian is just very popular and everyone’s hitting it right now. Don’t know. Couldn’t connect to the mirrors either.
“But you are once again you are proving my point: you skipped tasksel and you knew what to install. I know it as well.
What about Joe User”
I don’t think so.
If Joe User takes the defaults, and presses Enter at the “Installation of packages” option, in the installation menu, Aptitudde will be launched automatically, giving Joe a menu to choose from, one of the options is:
Desktop Environments
here, he chooses Gnome or KDE (remember, he is a newbie, he doesn’t know any better), and that’s the end of it, whatever he chooses will be installed, (he did not have to install Aptitude, nor cavilate about Gnome or KDE), it was there, just for his use.
Me? i use an old PII, with a 10 Gig hd, i HAVE to pick and choose, after a “df -h”, i show 462 MB of used space, capisci?
Are you sure you have a working connection?
If you do, what about choosing different mirrors?
Joe User doesn’t know what a “desktop environment” is. Hell, I’ve never been 100% sure either, and I’ve used this stuff for a while.
Joe User turns on a computer and expects to see Windows or Mac OS X, for Joe User, there is no distinction between the OS and the desktop. So, being given a choice would confuse him.
LOL
We Debian users have at least two problems:
1)We like to split hairs in endless discussions
2)We absolutely hate to admit that our beloved OS is all but newbie friendly (somebody recently called Debian “the ultimate geek distro”. My reply was: “Not really. Have a look at Gentoo, Arch or even Slackware”)
If Debian is not (new)user friendly that is not intentional of course, LOL
It is just the way it happens to be.