Patrick Weber writes “The tutorials on the KDE-Cygwin site are very vague and they dont even have one for beginners. So I went out on my own and wrote my own tutorial. This is for anyone (even the people that have no idea what they are doing). I hope that this article is a help to everyone.“
Getting KDE to run in Cygwin
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I kind of like the idea to run KDE applications on windows. It would be interesting to know if anyone has tried to run KDE on Microsoft Services for Unix.
Or is this per se not possilbe?
Do you know what Microsoft Services for Unix are?
Yes, accually I do. SFU 3.5 provide an Unix subsystem for the NT-Core of Windows to run in parallel with the Win32 subsystem. In fact I am using SFU 3.5, successfully executing applications like DDD or the GIMP.
Since the QT library is also available for SFU, I hoped that the basis for KDE was laid.
The three links to required KDE files seem to be broken. Bummer.
Microsoft Services for Unix implements a Unix subsystem for Windows. It should be mostly compatible with several unices so compiling from source will likely be possible. However you’d need to compile XFree for Service for Unix as well (and possibly even gcc3, I honoustly don’t know which version is supplied), and you will probably lose the -Windowless option for the cygwin version, but it should be able to run. If it doesn’t straight away at least it shouldn’t be too hard to fix.
just attempted to d’load they work for me,
“However you’d need to compile XFree for Service for Unix as well (and possibly even gcc3)”
GCC 3 is provided. So no problem there. And for the xfree. Well SFU come with the X11R6 headers and libraries (this should be enough to compile the programs shouln’d it). To be able to display x-windows you need to run a xserver in the win32 subsystem. The “unix” application can then connect to it (well this way I’m doing it).
I thought about installing KDE the last time I downloaded cygwin, but then I thought, why not just run Linux or freeBSD in a virtual machine instead? I mean, aside from the cost, since I already have a virtal machine.
I use cygwin primarily because I can’t do without grep, find, paste, (insert your favorite here). I already have a windows environment on windows (such as it is).
They are broken because it’s not working for me right now. Same result under FireFox or IE.
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Could not read file.
Go back. /home/ftp/pub/sourceforge//s/so/sourceforge/kde-cygwin/kdelibs-3.1.4-3 -gcc3.tar.bz2
Dec 11, 2004 16:34
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Wow, I remember the first time I install KDE under cygwin. It worked the first time around, with no problems. The original tutorials seemed fine.
Abbie. I dont know how you got it to work first time around but good for you. I couldnt. I spend 3 days working on this (aside from sleep, school and homework it was all KDE-Cygwin). I finially got it to work and this is how I did it.
As for the broken links I am not sure what to say. They work here. Give it some time, it might be an error with sourceforge or with your ISP.
Patrick Weber
What Xserver are you using?
I tried using the following as a trial, but I couldn’t connect to localhost or Fedora on another computer.
http://www.interopsystems.com/Desktop-X.htm
anyone here tried gnome with cygwin? just curious
Excellent instructions, excellent help, both of which I needed. I am using Konqueror from within my x-session running kde 3.1 on windows xp home. I see no reason to buy vmware. Is there a limit to what you can do with this?
Did I say this was cool and fast.
On a somewhat related note, I’ve been running colinux (http://www.colinux.org) in windows for a few weeks now and it’s very nice. I love being able to run windows and a real linux (side by side) on the same machine.
” I kind of like the idea to run KDE applications on windows. It would be interesting to know if anyone has tried to run KDE on Microsoft Services for Unix.
Or is this per se not possilbe? ”
It is very much possible. A port of an XServer would have to be done for Windows and the libraries would have to be ported as well. Shouldnt be too difficult since SFU is based on OpenBSD.
CoLinux is significanly faster. So i’d recommend that over using Cygwin.
Interesting. Desktop-X 2.0 works perfektly enough for me. I even didn’t have to change de default settings. As soon Desktop-X is running I just can type “ddd” in de the console and here it comes (no need of startx or anything).
Rather than following the instructions in that article, you should just follow the installation guide on the official site, few less steps:
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/installation.php
You know that there exists a kde-cygwin installer which makes kde install&run under cygwin like point&click right ? And you also know cygwin installation is just as hard as finding the perfect mirror (close, fast, not broken).
I use cygwin+kde on a regular basis when I need Win&Lin envorinment simultaneously and because it’s more smooth and faster for me than using vmware@Win with Linux or vmware@Lin with Windoze.
Installing a full cygwin environment (every and each package selected) and installing kde takes no more than 10-15 minutes – and most of it is just waiting for the downloads.
I did get DDD vom Toolwarehouse at Interix.com. My settigs for the Session I use are:
Session Type: rexec (used when creating a new session)
Hostname: localhost
Command: /usr/X11/bin/xterm -ls -display $MYIP:$DNUM
User and PW have to be set
The displaynumber is 0
All settings are made with Desktop-X Configuration.
Well done Adam. Works fine.
thx, worked fine for me
link please.
Thanks Nolridor it work sweet now.
Eugenia sorry about my previous post. I have no idea about why it had so many carriage returns.
Thanks for your assistance, and also since my questions are offtopic, can you please see this thread I have set up. I just have one or two more questions.
http://www.osnews.com/phorum/read.php?f=6&i=343&t=343#reply_343
Running another graphics server just for KDE seems redundant. Qt is cross-platform. Can KDE be built using Qt/Windows instead of Qt/X + XFree86?
<em>Running another graphics server just for KDE seems redundant. Qt is cross-platform. Can KDE be built using Qt/Windows instead of Qt/X + XFree86?</em>
Nope. KDE explicitly requires an X server.
It can be done. It is just not mature yet.
http://iidea.pl/~js/qkw/news-2003-07-20.html
I can’t wait for the day I can use KATE in Windows, that yet another text editor really rocks, and is free.
You can use KATE in Windows.
You just have to download the packages and install them. I am not sure ATM how to do this but I will look it up. I will add to this article as soon as I can get it to work.
Patrick
I’d love to try this out, but unfortunately
every attempt I’ve made to download Cygwin
for offline install has failed…
There’s some kind of script failure. The links didn’t work for me either, but I just skated to:
http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/kde-cygwin/
and selected them manually.
Just one question. Why?
Surely it is better to dual boot into a distro.
>Just one question. Why?
>Surely it is better to dual boot into a distro.
Uhm what if somebody need to concurrently work on the two systems? And all the time needed to logout from a system and reboot into the other?
Just add a ?download at the end of each link, and it will work.
Unfortunately, using the cygwin installer (as someone recommended above) didn’t work for me, because KDE’s package repository is out of sync with the others, so I’d get a download failed message.
It looks like installing manually will work fine.