Mandriva has released the CD and DVD ISO images of Mandriva Linux 2005 Limited Edition for i586 to their download mirrors.
Mandriva Linux 2005 ISO Images Available for Download
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so, has anyone tried it yet? Hows this differnt from mandrake
This IS Mandrake – they bought Conectiva Linux and changed their name. There is a review of it farther down.
Usually “limited edition” in marketing terminology is used to convey the idea that it’s exclusive somehow and not many will be made. But I get the creeping feeling here that they’re using “limited edition” to mean “crippled edition”. Anyone have any insight into what they mean with this term?
Also, would this have been called “Community” if they hadn’t changed their name and merged with Conectiva, or would it be “Official”.
It’s called Limited Edition because it’s not being sold as a retail pack with tech support. Otherwise, it’s a full release as usual, nothing crippled about it.
It wouldn’t be either Community or Official, it’s just a release. Think of it like all the releases before 10.0. In terms of bug fixing time before release, it had more than a CE would have had but less than OE, so it’s in the middle.
WIll the x86-64 version be available to download too?
This should be an interesting release. Given that it is much more conservative than any other previous release when it comes to package selection, it should be extremely stable.
They have backported some key apps from KDE 3.4 such as KPDF and Kontact, but generally speaking, Mandrake is erring on the side of caution, which I, for one, welcome.
Don’t put this release on any server where you expect long-term support as this release will only be supported until October 2005 when Mandrake releases its first official release, which will be a combination of the R&D efforts with Connectiva.
Moving to a yearly release is one of Mandrake’s smartest moves, one that I had been expecting for a long time. More time to develop new features and more time to test them. Frankly, the six month development cycle that many distributions are on is a bit of a frenzy. I think Linux has reached enough maturity that the “release early, release often” doesn’t buy the user that much. Of course, if you need to be on the bleeding edge, there will be two to three community releases a year.
I am downloading it and I may try it on a friend’s computer, but I am sticking to MDK 10.1 on my desktop
Later, people.
You can do a ftp-install.
10.1(x86_64) still isn’t avaible for download,so is 2005(x86_64).
As I understand it, the plan is to have a one CD download version of x86-64 available which you could add on to with urpmi. I don’t think this is out yet though.
it is called limited edition because there is no proprietary software included. by that, I mean, you have to get yer own flash/java/window codecs etc
same as every other version of mandrake download edition
it is called limited edition because there is no proprietary software included.
No, all versions (with or without proprietary drivers) are called 2005 LE. The download version contains 100% free software, other versions haven’t the “download” tag in their name.
Otherwise, this is exactly equivalent to a classic 10.2, with Powerpack-like editions for club members (or store purchasers).
Moreover, now you can have access to the isos by HTTP transfer (and not only Bitorrent), which makes it easier for people having problems with Bitorrent.
that link to the dvd iso download does not work for me. I have also tried other different links from different FTP sites, and i haven’t been able to find another link to the file.
Well, this is one reason why i have switched from mandrake to fedora: with fedora, you have instant access to all ISO images download (including DVD ones), and system updates don’t break the system.
I would understand that Mandrake (sorry, Mandriva), insisted us on paying for the club version, if they had available the free download edition version at the same time. But no, they have to make things difficult to pleople who just wan to download and try this distro for free…
I mean, come on, i can find free CD ISO download links, but haven’t been able to find the DVD ISO link. Nowadays, most people do have DVD-RW units (they are very cheap now).
I don’t thimk Mandriva will gain users if they do that kind of things: the best way to attract users is to have the freely available version (even if it’s limited) at the same time as the club version.
Has anyone tested this release yet?, what’s new in this version? anyone know if there’s a review of it?
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I thought it was called that to fit into the new naming convention since the Connectiva features haven’t been worked in yet.
I just installed it on mandriva, granted it is the i586 version but it was perfect.
no dependency problems at all……
the only thing is…
why would anyone want the adobe reader at 37mb when there is far better versions already for linux ? like kpdf or even xpdf !
are you so entrenched with windows you even have to have your apps exactly the way they are under windows ?
Well, for example the real acrobat reader can work with forms that have blanks you can type in. None of the other versions on linux do this.
Also, it isn’t like I’m running out of a gig of RAM or hard drive space, and acroread 7 loads fast enough (even faster if you turn off some plugins).
Serve yourself
http://www.osnews.com/topic.php?icon=39
I too think it’s great that Mandriva is now moving to a yearly release instead of the previous twice a year release cycle.
I have found going from one 6 month release to the next does not offer much in terms of new features, but a yearly release tends to be more compelling. For instance, I’m still running Mandrake 10 OE on one machine, and I saw little reason to jump to 10.1. Same thing with Ubuntu – I’ve used Warty a bunch, but see little reason to upgrade to Hoary. And same with Fedora Core – I have FC2 from a book I bought, and saw not much to make me want to go to FC3. I will however, consider the upgrade with all of these with future releases, when there is more of a leap in features, as well as the kernel, desktop, and software versions.
So a yearly release gives more of a compelling feature and software versioning leap from release to release.
And, most importantly, a yearly release ensures greater stability and fewer bugs, with the longer test and bug fixing cycles.
Finally, being a little more conservative and a little less cutting edge is another great idea. Always being on the cutting edge always ensures more instability and more problems. That is a fact of life. I’ve gotten myself out of the “always getting the latest goodies” cycle, and have obtained more usable and more stable systems as a result.
Getting the latest goodies can be overrated anyway, because one ends up spending more time checking out the new goodies and tweeking than actually getting work/play done.
On the other end of the spectrum is Debian, which is taking over 3 years to release Sarge. That’s ridiculous. There is a happy medium between being super slow and overly cutting edge, and IMHO that’s a yearly release cycle.
So I congratulate Mandriva for the new release strategy. I hope other distros follow suit.
give us a break, the release was not even officially announced when this news went up. OSNews and Distrowatch jumped the gun when things were not fully set up.
Just so people know, the first ISO has changed from the version available via bittorrent for MandrivaClub members.
Does anyone use Mandrake on a system that’s less than an i686 architecture when it comes down to x86 machines? I would think they would change it to i686 code instead since I don’t think you can run it with much less at a very usable level, or at least by default. I guess it’s just to give everyone a fair chance, and the code change probably wouldn’t help a great deal, but I just wanted to see what the impression was of this.
Make sure you install the externally generated KDE 3.4 (from thac, check the mandrivaclub’s forum). It makes a huge difference and will provide you with an up to date desktop. Mandriva is too conservative. They already have the Corporate Desktop for those who want a reduced feature set and longer support periods.
yep, I can name two people at least who are running it on K6 or C3 machines which don’t work with standard GCC ‘i686’ optimisations.
Ah, I see. I didn’t expect it, but then that would make sense. I don’t believe they could run the system stock with all the services it has and such, but with some changes (like no KDE and such) I guess it would be fine. Thanks for clarification
btw, note that since 10.1, the standard kernel has been built with i686 optimizations, with an alternative i586 kernel available. Prior to 10.1, this was the other way around. We also use an i686-optimized version of glibc by default, IIRC. If you install on a non-i686 machine it’s automatically detected and the i586 kernel and glibc are used.
just a caution – i have a multi-boot system and the kubuntu installer worked with it fine. however, the mandriva installer didn’t like the partition table and would not let me use the partition tool, wanting only yo wipe the table and start afresh.
quick, get to easons !
it is on the cover dvd of this months Linux Magazine… in the UK
it just hit the shops this morning, so I got it an installed
Impressive !