Apple is offering up to $300 off a purchase of Power Mac G4 in its “Powerful offer” through July 7th (just one week before the NY MacWorld). The promo offers $200 mail-in rebate on a 800MHz Power Mac, and $300 rebate on either a dual 1-GHz Power Mac or a 933MHz. The 933 Mhz specific model seems like a good deal overall (considerably faster than the 800 MHz one because of its additional 2 MB L3 cache), especially if you add some 1 GB memory on it that you can find for cheap these days ($50 USD for a 512 MB DIMM PC-133 SDRAM). The offer is only valid at retail Apple store or at the Apple Store online.
…me saying Apple is about reveal something making these top-end Macs a bit less top-end? ๐
(And oh, hold the complaints about Apple not being top-end machines Eugenia. ;-))
They are not top end machines. A modern dual Xeon SMT for almost the same money blows these PowerMacs away. BUT DON’T start that discussion again. It is getting truly boring. Go read older threads about it if you want to satisfy the bitching part of yourself.
Fact is though, that there is a $300 rebate for the model I want. It is a good deal for an *Apple machine*. If that price was for a PC, I would say that it was still a bit expensive, but overall, for an *Apple machine*, it seems reasonable. (hey, at least give me some credit for favoring Apple’s actions in this news story
And this is why I did this story, while it has nothing to do directly with OSNews. I wanted people to know about the rebate deal and about the 933 Mhz model which seems to be a good purchase overall.
Just fill it up with memory, and this 933 Mhz machine is what you really want if you want to try MacOSX for a good overall price.
>>They are not top end machines. A modern dual Xeon SMT for almost the same money blows these PowerMacs away.<<
Actually I have seen Xeons lack in performance compared to P4s in some benchmarks. But if I was in for a real CPU speed machine I would go either with Sun or Compaq’s Alpha, maybe even SGI’s offerings. Our Athlon machine here at work gets outperformed by our Sun Boxes on real CPU intensive tasks (except for display rendering)!
that Euginia buys pumped up e-Machines…….
(ment in jest and nothing more) ๐
I build my machines “by hand” with the exact parts I want, and the way I want.
I know you do (you have said it in other threads).
I like to build my own machines as well, but as of late, I have been getting lazy and do not even have the perpencity to open the cases to do memory upgrades
it probably has somthing to do with my taking a likeing to laptops. they make it so easy to be lazy when you have wireless networking ๐
Me feels you’ll be happier to have a 1 ghz G4 with a 400Mhz front bus/DDR ram in a couple weeks, for the same price…
MacRumors is speculating what come for MWNY 2002 will be something close to your post… here is what they had to say;
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/05/20020511173913.shtml
here is something I just ran across just now on the PowerPC subject;
http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/17712.html
Enjoy…
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You say, “Lets not start up the price vs. pc talk again” and then you go ahead and do just that! WTF?
…I clearly shouldn’t have made that joke if I knew its repurcussions. Take it easy Eugenia et al!
They are not top end machines. A modern dual Xeon SMT for almost the same money blows these PowerMacs away.
But is that because of the hardware or the operating system, or both
Glad to here about the rebates… that’s handy.
… I woulnd’t have thought that anybody (meaning: you, Eugenia) considering to buy a Dual-Xeon would solicit buying 512 MB-50 USD RAM modules into a computer worth a used car…
As long these DIMMs work, I don’t care if they only cost $1. And we buy our RAM from Crucial anyway, they have a good name.
As I’ve said in another thread about the stripes in OSX, I have trouble seeing because I’m almost blind. I can’t find any mention of the rebates in Apple Store’s website. I selected the 933 Mhz model, left the config untouched, clicked continue, and continue again to what I think is the last page before they start asking for money. Still no mention of a rebate. Is the coupon in the box or something?
It’s also nice to see that Apple now lets customers choose different optical drives. Like for the 933 Mhz model, I can down grade to a CDRW from a SuperDrive to save $200. Then instead of a GF4 MX (which really isn’t that hot anyways) choose a Radeom 7500 for another $100 reduction. It comes down to $1999 for the 933 Mhz model, and if I can get this $300 rebate for this lower-cost configuration, you’re looking at a $1699 PowerMac 933!
The rebate is in the link above. You download the PDF rebate, you print it, you buy the PowerMac, you fill the information on the printed PDF and then you send it back to Apple. After 6-8 weeks, you get a check from Apple.
I beg to differ regarding the gfx card btw. The GeForce4MX 64 MB is not the fastest thing out there, but its bandwidth and speed is considerably faster than the Radeon 7500 with 32 MB. I am not talking about 3D speed here necessarily. Do not forget that Quartz Extreme needs lots of bandwidth and lots of memory. It is the technology such that it demands as much internal transfer speed and memory you got. Therefore, I believe the GeForce4MX is better for a newly purchased Mac than the Radeon 7500, especially if you are looking forward to run future releases of MacOSX on it. It is not about 3D speed, it is about its internal bandwidth and memory sizes that favors this card in regard to Quartz Extreme.
As for the SuperDrive Vs CD-RW, sure, not everyone needs a SuperDrive. I would personally go for it if I would get that PowerMac, just to have the “whole set” in tact, but others may downgrade to CD-RW.
However, I advise everyone to keep the GeForce4MX or similarly fast and memory-filled card for a PowerMac.
Thanks for the info on the rebate and the grafx card.
Its appreciated.
If someone was entusiastic about graphic cards enough, they would eventually replace that GF4 MX anyways. So why pay more the first time around when something better will come out in a few months?
I agree with you on GF4’s capabilities and its strengths, but I’m looking at this system from a different perspective. I need a nice and quiet machine to run overnight, and get as much CPU power I can out of it. The monitor will be off most of the time, so graphics card is no big deal for me.
Man… it seems as though Apple only cares about those in the US only.
Their pricing in Singapore… sucks… really sucks… and now the rebate isn’t offered here?
I guess I’ll stick to my iMacDV running Debian… OSX was just too slow on that baby…
Yes, you could get a dual Xeon computer with GeForce 4Ti460 (or Elsa Gloria if you into 3D), Creative Audigy Platinum, a 60gb 7,200rpm etc., and would be in the same price range of Macs. But why would anyone need such power anyway? Plus, you could get a HP DVD+RW/+R/CD-R/RW drive..
Anyway, P4s can outperform G4s. Not because of clockspeed. Lately, Intel have been ramping up P4s. Use the latest top end P4 with RDRAM (PC-1025) and the 533mhz FSB, and you can blow dual 1GHz PCs away.
But why would anyone need such power anyway?
Never ask why. If they make such powerful computers, than there will be people out there who want ’em. On the topic of performance, I still can’t understand why anyone would believe Steve Jobs and think the G4 is faster. I just don’t see it.
..to solve a problem to use the fastest PC ๐
Thoems
..to solve a problem to use the fastest PC ๐
Care to elaborate more?