Red Hat is the latest Linux company to challenge Mircosoft’s hold on the business desktop space with the introduction of Red Hat Desktop, the latest addition to the Red Hat Enterprise Linux family. Matthew Szulik, the company’s chief executive, chairman and president met ITWeek to discuss Red Hat’s latest efforts and share his views about the Linux landscape.
Putting Linux on the Corporate Desktop
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“We’re starting to see the [necessary] application performance on Linux.”
It’s a shame that application performance between Linux and windows is such an overlooked topic. Say what you will about MS not letting people publish benchmarks, but if decss, fairplay, and kazaa lite are out there in the wild anyway I am SURE if someone had valid application benchmarks showing Linux “winning” there would be no shortage of people willing to mirror the information in the name of free speech (and rightfully so).
If nobody will do some application benchmarks, does someone want to point me in the direction of a fair cross platform method of benchmarking so I can benchmark and publish my findings?
So is this going to be a new RH proprietary kernel or is Red Hat going to give away the ES proprietary kernel?
Yeah I know they may eventually release the source but any differentiation from OSDL is still proprietary. RH uses this line against othe vendors, so I guess it’s OK to use it against them.
Gonna be interesting to see what they do.
Now that Fedora Core has reached official hobby status, RH almost has no product for small businesses. I switched.
“o is this going to be a new RH proprietary kernel or is Red Hat going to give away the ES proprietary kernel?
Yeah I know they may eventually release the source but any differentiation from OSDL is still proprietary. RH uses this line against othe vendors, so I guess it’s OK to use it against them.
Gonna be interesting to see what they do.
Now that Fedora Core has reached official hobby status, RH almost has no product for small businesses. I switched.
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are you trying to make sense here. there is nothing logical or meaningful about this post
redhat’s kernel has patches against linus tree. osdl has nothing to do with that. redhat doesnt and cannot do proprietary modifications because the kernel is under gpl. the source is available immediately on the ftp site.
redhat is focussing on the enterprise. if you want to download it for free get it from other sources like caos and whitebox linux and taolinux.
fedora is a completely open and free community product sponspored by redhat also used by hobbyists. there is no official hobbyist status for that.
RedHat already has a corporate desktop..it is called RedHat Professional Workstation.
Pretty unpleasant talk from the Redhat guys here. SuSE/Novell freed both the YaST and the Evolution connector, so the only proprietary software SuSE now ships are the value-added programs such as Java, RealPlayer, Flash, MainActor and the like that Redhat never both with. The Red Carpet talk is FUD, SuSE uses YaST Online Update (YOU).
Sad to see him take such a nasty tone. I though Linux people held themselves above such FUD. Things have definitely got a bit uglier since my first Linux distro in ’99.
“so the only proprietary software SuSE now ships are the value-added programs such as Java, RealPlayer, Flash, MainActor and the like that Redhat never both with. ”
Before YOU start talking about other people spreading missinformation maybe you should get YOU should get the correct facts first?
I can tell you that Redhat Desktop includes:
Adobe Acrobat Reader and plugin
Macromedia Flash plugin
Java (IBM and BEA) and plugin (IBM)
Real Player
Please do not come here to OSnews and talk LOUD about FUD, when YOU BRIAN is the man who spreads the sh*t here!
Ok, timmah!, then if Redhat desktop includes IBM Java, Acroreader, and Real Player, then that Red Hat representive is worse than a FUDster, he’s a hypocrite.
Check out this choice quote:
Why Red Hat versus Novell-SuSE or Sun JDS on the desktop?
They’re all proprietary except us. They all have proprietary technology inside, not 100 per cent open source software. They continue to lock customers in to limit choice.
If you buy the Sun desktop, you’re going to buy into the proprietary Sun architecture. With SuSE there’s Red Carpet, integrated with other Novell technologies, still proprietary.
If you’re a Microsoft customer and your options continue to be proprietary software A or B plus open source, why change? It’s all this incremental functionality that customers have got tired of spending money on for the last 10 years.
So what do you say about that Timmah!?
i’ve been running Mandrake 9.x on the desktop at my workplace for close to 18 months…and it’s a major Aussie corporation where i work.
i use Citrix where i need any Windows interoperabilty. All this talk about “is Linux ready for the desktop” is garbage. It’s already here!! It’s stable, reliable and easy to use, configure and maintain.
And when you have uptimes of:
$ uptime
09:56:15 up 136 days, 5:03, 17 users, load average: 0.23, 0.20, 0.16
just on an old Dell Optiplex, why wuould you want to use Windows on your desk where reboots at least twice daily are common??
cheers
peter
the name ‘corporate desktop’ makes it sounds all important and stuff when its really just linux.
i bet it will be successful. redhat is smart.
what about linux desktop performance? freebsd ran desktop apps like 10x faster than linux 2.4… windows’s desktop’s performance is oustanding compared to a linux desktop 2.4 again.
I have not tried 2.6 yet but I Hear it really killed windows desktop performance wise.
Lumbergh was kind enough to respond to your post, so I won’t add anything else, except to in reponse to this:
“Please do not come here to OSnews and talk LOUD about FUD, when YOU BRIAN is the man who spreads the sh*t here!”
a) I’ve been around OS News for quite a while
b) I’ve rarely TALKED LOUD as I frankly find it annoying
c) My name is Bryan, as in with a Y.
Have a nice day