YOPER Linux V series had its next stable release of V2 tagged 2.1.0. This release provides the power user with many new features, encompassing REISER4 support for the root filesystem, new non-destructive NTFS resizing, graphical partitioning, option to use GRUB or LILO bootloaders, a new clustered control panel, KDE 3.3.0 Final, Linux Kernel 2.6.8.1, default Firewall and the
OpenOffice.org Office Suite, all provided on 1 CD. The default “look and feel” has been enhanced and many bugfixes have been applied, including PCMCIA support during install and support for PPPoE.
Yoper V2.1 Released
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Hi,
Woohoo!! First post =). Sorry, couldnt’ resist.
Seriously, though, has anybody had much experience with this one? Reiser4 – pretty cool, can’t wait to blast some of my data away (kidding). Also, what exactly is this distro’s lineage? It appears to be built from source (LFS?), with stuff from Slackware and Redhat. Well, IMHO, Slackware rocks, but hey, it’s all about choice, right?
Bye,
Victor
PS: Also, it’s NZ – cool!
I remember I installed it a while back, v2 IIRC, but wasn’t particularly impressed with it and removed it virtually immediately. I think what annoyed me was (a) no configuration tools except the standard KDE stuff and (b) it didn’t have any proprietary stuff like Acrobat Reader, RealPlayer etc included. Also, it was rather plain compared to a lot of other distros IMHO, although that judgment is more subjective.
This is an excellent review of Yoper
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7942
And most of the enhancements for this release are taken directly from the suggestions.
For me, having KDE 3.3 released with the distro is the coolest feature since the other two distros that I use — SuSE and Xandros — either won’t release it till their next version upgrade or have to get the RPMs myself and sift through the dependency h3ll …
Is this a livecd? Does it come with GNOME?
It might sound cool, but once you have these you have a fairly unspectacular distro with minimal package avaiability.
Sure it uses apt4rpm – but with one guy doing all this, don’t expect the package selection to be vast or updated very often.
I’ll wait for Gentoo or Debian unstable.
GJ
Anonymous people are certainly ignorable.. How many packages does an average person need? we have 2/3 of what RHES has ….. I think it is more than enough.
Mikesum32. A liveCD is in development and probably launched within the next month. We have gnome in our repository. The default is KDE.
Read their website…
<Quote>
Yoper is 100% GPL and we support the GPL movement since 1994
</Quote>
As your ‘must have’ apps like Acroread etc are not released under the GPL then they can’t be included in the release.
Anyway, those apps you mention are not exactly hard to download after you have installed your favourite version of your favourite OS is it? Perhaps you have your own repository? These are pretty minor bitches but there again some people are never satisfied.
IMHO, this distro seems to be worth a look especially with Reiser4 included. I am certainly going to give it a try.
It’s my opinion. I tried it. I can’t live with rpm. You used to use gentoo’s portage. at least that gave the user some choice, though I do know portage can have a habit of breaking things sometimes.
But anyway it’s not ignorant to state my view.
I am entitled to it just like everyone else.
Right now I prefer debian, vast choice and hard to break.
Works for me.
GJ
With this release including KDE 3.3 and ReiserFS4, I definetly gonna try it. Downloading it right now. What might hold me back is it needs a 3GB root partition and a swap partition. Both that I don’t and find very restrictive for an installer.
A question I have in mind. Since its KDE-oriented why not use kynaptic instead of synaptic.
https://moin.conectiva.com.br/GustavoNiemeyer/2004-03-10
Anonymous people are certainly ignorable..
Excuse me for going offtopic and note that i don’t have an opinion on the subject, but… just because someone appears to be anonymous doesn’t mean their argument doesn’t carry weight. People on this forum aren’t anonymous: part of the IP address / hostname is posted. The data is perfectly sniffable for the Powers that Be. That’s not anonimity. The fact part of a hostname / IP address is posted means the poster ain’t anonymous for you as reader. Also, the person you replied signs of with “GJ”. Wether he/she used “Anonymous” as name and “GJ” as sign or “GJ” as name is only a minor cosmetic point. Personally, i find this a rather arrogant approach and don’t feel offended by me stating that. Good luck with your efforts. Have you done any ReiserFS4 analysis by any means? I’d be interested in these.
Also, “Not enought packages” != “I don’t like RPM”
You can channge the restriction by
cp -a /usr/bin/yoper /root
vi /root/yoper
#search for 3000
#replace with 2000
#write and quit
./yoper
Also, “Not enought packages” != “I don’t like RPM”
Thanks for your personal opinion. Luckily the top distributions world wide use rpm and have around 1000 packages
wrong instructions
cp -a /usr/bin/yoper /root
cd /root
vim yoper
#search for 3000
#replace with 2000
#write and quit
./yoper
It will be replacing Synaptic soon.
Mr dpi -.ipv4.freeshell.bofx.net
My apologies for my comment it was meant with a
…. or 
Yes well chill out, you have to realise that people have a right to be critical. I remember you from days of old too in the early days of Yoper when you banned and delted everyone on your forum who made a remotely negative comment about ‘Your OS’. It seems you are still not much of a fan of criticism.
It didn’t win me over then, nor does it now. Not a very professional attitude. And I still don’t like RPM – regardless of the fact that a number of the ‘top’ ditributions use it. That is more an accident of history than anything to do with whether or not it is a vaiable package management system.
You like it I don’t. I think it’s best to leave it at that.
GJ
yopper rocks!
to save bandwidth, bz the iso
Yoper is much, much faster and snappier than for example Fedora Core 2. It has most of the programs I use for my daily work and it is very stable. Let’s try it yourself 🙂
I try yoper and I think yoper fail in some major approach:
1 – yoper deal with deb, rpm, tgz ( what a confusion of dependencies!)
2 – yoper lives “on the edge”, with the last packages realeases(do you try that packages for so long ?)
I think yoper like openbsd, I mean a distro to be the pride of one guy (like openbsd), not a distro to the community.
One more thing … why yoper hide your origin ?
Is LFS isn´t ?
thanks
What configuration tools has this distro for hardware as I’m lazy and like clicking on buttons. I’m using Fedora now.
For me, having KDE 3.3 released with the distro is the coolest feature since the other two distros that I use — SuSE and Xandros — either won’t release it till their next version upgrade or have to get the RPMs myself and sift through the dependency h3ll
SuSE provide it as a Yast installation source as well:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/…
No idea why they don’t mention that on their KDE update website.
… i tried yoper v2 in one of its earlier versions. kde is damn fast. hats off! so it is on a good way. and the ability to use rpm, deb and tar.gz files is impressive. but it still needs some time in order to become a full-fledged distro. (more install options e.g.). anyway, good distro so far. keep it up.
Well I have been using Yoper for about two months. Normally I run with FreeBSD but I think I will stick with Yoper for the moment, the installer is nothing to write home about but seeing you install and then leave its not really a problem and its certainly no harder than the FreeBSD installer.
Other than that its really fast and it has everything I currently need to get my work done. The updates seem to come thick and fast and they are so easy to get.
Full credit Yoper
Yeah, that’s why Xandros, SUSE and Lycoris (among others) don’t give you those packages in their freebie versions </sarcasm>
Sure it’s not hard to add them in, but the fact that other distros have them by default is a big minus for Yoper IMHO.
Yoper may be nice, but its webpage is just ugly.
KDE 3.3 SuSE packages were available on day one. I have it running and has been reliable. The README warns that SUSE wont support anyone using the 3.3 packages though. Also don’t use the README’s suggested upgrade rather use
rpm -Uvh –force –nodeps *.rpm. At least it worked for me.
I’m a devout supporter of anyone who is willing to make a reasonable Linux distro…. I should NOT need 5-6 CDs to install. I mean really, do I really need 10 text editors, 3 audio players, 4 video players, 7 window managers and a whole slew of extra “features” I’ll never use that are just eating HD space?
Also whats the big deal about having to download Acrobat reader? It doesn’t come with windows, niether does Real the last time I installed it for my wife. BItching about not having 3rd party programs on the CD is just plain stupid and laziness.
If Yoper gives me a good install base and I find that I need app “X” I’ll go download and install it like the rest of the world, not bitch about it not being on the CD. That’s all I care about a good base starting point without all the extra fluff.
Can’t wait for a LiveCD. Keep up the good work.
yoper also has gnome – install yoper
apt-get update
apt-get install Ygnome
Fedora comes with latest technology 5-6 months? Yoper is *always* up-to-date, just turn apt-get update && apt-get upgrade weekly. New kernel versions and most software is into yoper as soon as it is out just like the bleeding edge distros – gentoo, arch etc.
actually the distro with the strongest community support is Debian it’s community is way bigger than Fedora’s and it is totally community driven.
This seems to be a distro that is going on a right path. I’ll definitely try it with the prospects of it becoming my main Linux development distro.
Yoper is the best linux !!
Yoper with KDE is very good for Desktop users and easy to support many Language…that right way to use KDE.
only 1 CD that enough to install after that can apt-get from yoper site..
Good job man
Cheer !!!
I’ve been using Mandrake for over 1 year.
But am happy I’ve changed completely to Yoper.
It’s much faster; no more 15 seconds waiting for an app to fire.
Also being part of a constantly evolving new distro makes it all more personal and significant.
Sure there are packages missing.
So we always can learn to build our own and add it to Yoper’s repository. Rather than just sit back and complain.
It’s a very friendly and welcoming community there, no power battles or l33t t4lk – pretty cool methinks.
Having run Mandrake 10, Fedora Core 2 (and 3 Test 1), and SuSe 9.1, among others, I can say that Yoper is, without a doubt, the fastest distro I have ever run. It is FAST. Did I mention it was fast? 😉
Anyway, it’s a fantastic DESKTOP distro. It has virtually all the packages a desktop user could ever possibly want. I’m personally in the process of package a few key pieces that are missing (like Bittorrent and Quicktime), and that will go a long way to filling any minor outstanding gaps.
Seriously, if you want to try the fastest, most fully-functional (in terms of the DESKTOP) Linux distro out there, give Yoper a try. It is FAST and FUNCTIONAL.
Vector Linux, a Slackware-based distro, is also fast. Very fast…IMHO.
No offense, I’m sure Vector Linux is an adequate distro, but:
1) It’s a pretty bare-bones distribution. Yoper offers an ever-increasing repository of useful and powerful desktop apps. It appears Vector Linux expects you to compile everything from source. Wooohooo, convenient!
2) Vector Linux is using very old versions of the packages it includes (it’s still using a 2.4 kernel…). Yoper, OTOH, implements the latest versions, enabling its user to take advantage of the latest Linux technological advancements.
3) Vector Linux seems like a bit of a mish-mash. It uses a GTK desktop, but implements KOffice as its office suite (Open Office isn’t even an option). Would it not make more sense to use Abiword, a GTK-based word processor?
Look nice, I may try it.
Vector’s not too bad, speedwise (tho it’s not really any better than the Slackware upon which it’s based). But is Yoper only fast compared to Fedora core?
I haven’t seen anything as zippy as Feather Linux. I’m pretty sure it’s because they use much lighter xvesa instead of x.org/xfree86.
kwr2k stated: “For me, having KDE 3.3 released with the distro is the coolest feature since the other two distros that I use — SuSE and Xandros — either won’t release it till their next version upgrade or have to get the RPMs myself and sift through the dependency h3ll …”
If you want KDE 3.3 on SuSE, see this page, configure apt, and add “kde-unstable.”
http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/
Firstly,
I am always of the thought that no distro is actually better than another
each fits a purpose, a type of user, a type of experience, a type of processor/machine.
VectorLinux – tho i have the CD but never installed it – I got the impression was made to older machine with older specs. Naturally being so light base it will run extremely fast on a modern pentium. But its optmized for lower machines and not higher i686’s.
I’m interested to try YOPER, but what I saw in http://www.yoper.com/yoperreleasepackages.txt, it lacks latex packages (and its frontend, kile) which I need for daily usage. Perhaps I should wait until it is included in the repository.
First of all, nice distro.
Though I have two questions:
What compiler does it use?
Does it (plan to) support any other architectures besides x86?
Like the flamebaiters trolling the net, you mean?
Yes, and I apologize for the timbre of my comment. It came-off rather assholish. 😉
It’s my understanding that Yoper is faster than any other Linux distribution out there ATM, including Gentoo and Slack (this, evidently, comes from former users of those distros). I know from personal experience that it is, indeed, extremely fast. I tried Slack about 1 1/2 years ago, and it was pretty fast too… however, everything had to be setup by hand.
Regarding Feather Linux, yeah, it’s probably faster than Yoper. However, that’s not surprising, considering it uses neither KDE nor GNOME (only Fluxbox, no QT or GTK is installed at all). Actually, according to Distro Watch, it uses XFree86, which is too bad, coz I would have liked to try a distro that uses an alternative. It also makes Vector Linux look like a feature-complete distro — Feather includes about as minimal a set of packages as is required to boot a windowed environment, I think. 😉 Finally, it, too, is using very outdated packages (kernel 2.4, etc.).
What it comes down to, is that speed and resource useage are critical factors to consider when building a distro, and when selecting one to use. The other mainline distros have gotten so out of preportion in terms of their system requirements, it’s ridiculous. They give Linux the bad reputation of being slow and bloated, which is not the case.
Yoper is going to get a lot of people trying it out just for reiser4 and kde3.3. I’m tempted to myself :=) I, too, think that 1 cd is plenty for an install. Maybe two at the most… more than that is just ridiculous. I remember getting SuSE 6.4 on 6 disks a few years ago. I swear I found a kitchen sink on one of them… Yoper seems to fit a lot of nice stuff on one disk. Good luck to you, yoper, and keep up the nice work.
The Boulder Pledge was made in Dec 1996. This is the text.
Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything offered to me as the result of an unsolicited email message. Nor will I forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the online community.
– Robert Ebert
This is why i will not download or use Yoper Linux. I am sick to the eye teeth of Yoper fanatics (fanatic? quite possibly its only one) connected from …yoper.com or nyc.rr.com making false claims about their distribution on public messageboards, and publishing dishonest comparisons with out-of-date versions of Windows and frankly ludicrous claims about their own OS.
The web is littered with this crap. Its dishonest and is the morality of the “0nl1ne v14gr@ st0re” spammer.
Linux doesnt work that way., Good projects rise through reputation, not fraudulent promotion. I haven’t seen many third-party reviews that rate Yoper as really being better than the alternatives.
A good way of spotting these Yoper spammers is that they often link to a site called atlanticmissions which contains thoroughly misleading comparisons between a current distro of Liux and a 5-year-old copy of Windows 2000, among other equally enlightened material…
Do you have a faster version of windows to compair with Linux?
Reiser4 has been just merged in the -mm tree (some guys already have screamed at some things, like having a yacc parser in the kernel) but Yoper people already find it stable? Well, I have just discovered a new definition for stability
Vrok: I actually like the look of the Yoper home page and forums! I was kinda hoping Mandrake would update their site to look as nice! To each his own, I guess.
CdBee: Maybe I haven’t seen all the claims you’re talking about. But I did try Yoper when version 2.0 was released (haven’t tried 2.1 yet). If the claims you’re referring to relate to speed, you really ought to try it for yourself before you dismiss everything as “false claims”. I was very suprised at how fast it runs. As more and more software is being packaged for Yoper, this is fast becoming one of my favorite distros!
One other thing I like about Yoper is probably related to it being a small distro. The forums there are a great way to get answers to questions. I’ve never seen a forum where you can get answers to questions as fast as I did in the Yoper forum. Seems that “Fast” is the best way to describe Yoper: fast running, fast development, fast response.
Keep up the good work on Yoper!
It appears Vector Linux expects you to compile everything from source. Wooohooo, convenient!
-no compiling required at all on the install. Vector is based on the slackware package system so you can get precompiled packages through http://linuxpackages.net/ . There is even an apt-get like system called slapt-get that you can find at linuxpackages.net
Vector Linux is using very old versions of the packages it includes (it’s still using a 2.4 kernel…).
-there was a new release on the tenth of August
It uses a GTK desktop, but implements KOffice as its office suite
-in fact, it ships with abiword. there is no mention of koffice on the http://www.vectorlinux.com at all
The difference between vector and yoper is: ‘speed + minimalism’ (vector), and ‘speed + cutting edge’ (yoper). As always, there is no such thing as the better distro, its all in what you want and need
with yoper on my particular coputer i had to pass a boot parameter of yos nousb because my computer has USB ports like crazy, 12 of them 6 are USB-2.0 and not only yoper but a few other distros choke on the multitude of USB ports…
just thought i woulld pass this info along just incase anyone else has any similar problems :^)
HappyTrails
What’s the possibility that anybody else has 12 USB ports?!!
My bad, I was going on the data @Distro Watch…
I have 18..
xVariable: thanks for the background. now i can put it in better context.
Actually Feather uses xvesa “natively,” but with this latest version, you can now easily choose to use xfree86 instead, if you like.
Also, you’d be surprised at what comes in Feather out of the box. It’s got one of pretty much any kind of tool you’re likely to use (but, true, there’s no room to stuff in several “brands” of s/w that do essentially the same thing). If you want more/different software, you can do the ol apt-get (it’s a debian/knoppix-based distro) to get whatever else you may desire.
Don’t mean to start up anything flamey, but, really, Windoze actually does run faster than most linux distros (testing each on the same box) on account of the nature of X-windows (alright it wins if we’re talking commandline, but c’maaaaahn…).
I used to agree that Windows was faster than Linux. Windows is faster than your typical mainline distro (MDK, SuSe, Fedora, et al.)
OTOH, and I don’t know of anyway of saying this that won’t make me sound like a Yoper fanboy, but Yoper is orders of magnitude faster and more resource efficient than most other mainstream desktop Linux distros. In my admittedly subjective judgement, it is also either as fast or faster than Windows 2K/XP. I switched over from Windows a couple of months ago, and simply would not have stayed if I’d had to put up with sluggish performance.
Mind you, performance gains are always welcome (though in this day and age, not typically expected) on any OS platform, and I expect ongoing gains to be made in Linux. The other major distros could learn a few things regarding performance from a distro like Yoper.
To give you a sense of the sort of machine I’m running Yoper on, it’s an IBM Thinkpad A20M, with a Celeron 550, 256 MB RAM and an ATI Mobility M1. So, it’s a semi-marginal machine. Fedora runs slow as ass on it whereas, in contrast, Yope is as snappy (if not moreso) as Windows. YMMV, I guess.
I don’t know about you guys but I just don’t like Yoper ( I haven’t tried this version). And I’ll tell you why. 2 reasons: 1. Everyone tells me that yoper runs faster than any another binary distro; well not for me. When I boot Mandrake 10, i boot at least 5-10 seconds faster than yoper. and 2: the installation program is not graphical. On its self that’s fine but the distro is supposed to be a user friendly distro that can be easily installed. Don’t get me wrong text based installs is great if you have something like freebsd; something that isn’t made for bewbies but in yoper’s case they are just stuck between wanting to be easy (with it’s limited options for the linux vets) and scarring newbies away with the lack of graphics
(tell me if any of these have changed and I will re-try the distro)
I haven’t seen anything as zippy as Feather Linux. I’m pretty sure it’s because they use much lighter xvesa instead of x.org/xfree86.
Since Feather Linux seems nowhere near as functional as Yoper, I don’t think these comparisons are valid. You can keep stripping functionality and always end up with something faster, but what’s the point. The goal is to maximize both performance and functionality.
Hm, not bad, xVariable. But a 256mb machine isn’t “semi-marginal.” For most people’s uses, that’s more than adequate. Marginal is something on the order of say, 96mb ram — on which Feather is quite happy with and positively flies. If Yoper can perform anywhere near as well on those resources, i’ll be really impressed. But it really sounds more like Yoper’s a best-of-the-rest distro.
Which is fine. No shame in that. But I think if you can get a light, fast-runnin distro that is capable of being built up to as heavy as you can bear, that is the way to go.
Btw, I only bring this up in the context of all the speed claims for Yoper (which apparently is one of its big selling points).
What do you mean by stripped functionality? Once you slide Feather onto your system and make a few tweaks, it’s a fully operational Debian system. You can built up/in any functionality you want.
I would temporarily sacrifice some functionality (and really, again i say there’s nothing major that it’s missing) if it means I get xvesa and can run rings around Windows or any other distro.
the big question for me is if konq and evolution play nice together.
do mailto links work from konq, thus launching a new mail window in evolution?
what happens when you clck an url that someone has emailed to you?
I tried Feather and found it.fast..
Xvesa was smart enough to get an 800×600 out of
my 14″ monitor(i740 card)
Xorg(xfree) WILL NOT do that and i am stuck in 640×480
This is unacceptable as even winblowse can get 800×600
Unfortunately there are some problems with Xvesa(which
seems to be a dead project)
1) It is UNSTABLE …starting Mozilla in it(blackbox wm)
caused the whole system to freeze..The X serrver could
not shut down with cnt-alt-backspace and I had
to reboot.
2) The mouse wheel only partially works(this is mentioned
on the web). The scrolling is not as smooth as with
Xfree.
Still I will use it casue 640×480 is a pain
Yoper used less RAM while running KDE than anything else I’ve tried. As a matter of fact, it used less RAM doing a lot of other eye-candy-intensive tasks. I thought that was impressive considering I was using the stock kernel. I never did have the patience to compile KDE while using Gentoo though.
Yeah, speed, blah blah blah blah it’s fast. The fans might be spamming, but you can’t fight the facts. Yeah, it’s very fast, and it absolutely blows the doors off Fedora Core 2, Mandrake 10.0 and every other “big” distro I’ve tried with no tweaks, and it’s still fast even if you strip down any of those big mamajamas. Don’t knock it ’til you try it. Blow the dust off your Pentium IIs, Yoper will run fast on them too.
The only real problems I see with it are:
The lack of a central administration tool that newer users may see as a crucial component.
The installer is very simplistic, but lacking in options, not appealing to power users.
That’s all really, and it’s updated _constantly_…now about those package descriptions ;]
Tried to install Yoper 2.1.0 twice… But when I reboot, it does not seem to find the boot partition. Did it with ext3 and riser4…. Nothing seem to work. Another thing, Yoper can’t autodetect my ATI Radeon 8500…. Mandrake 10 find it with no problem.
Well sure no flames from me LOL
I am currently developing Yast into Yoper. I call it
Yoper Administrative System Tool.
I think for the next release we will have some of the Yast modules available on the CD and on Apt.
I am happy to see so many Yoperators and so many fair commenters.
Post in the Yoper forum. we have a solution to every problem
This is not the right place to ask for help isn’t it
Hello Yoper,
It’s done, i’m on the Yoper Forum and i’m waiting for help!!!
one of the yoper claims is able to use other distributions packages, including gentoo’s emerge command from their portage tool, i’d b amazed if portage truly lacks latex. YOS boosters make excessive claims for reasons similar to “the winners curse” a book title and economic phenomenon about how unrealistic expectations made companies that won record huge oil/gas drilling bids lose money later.
from some web page, YOS was a LFS cd but now they steal/borrow/adapt whatever gets them faster times on 686+boxes ~borg-like—-bruce
A little Yoper history for those that do not know much about it. I’m no Yoper expert, but have been following that Distro for some time now.
Yoper use the tgz packages in its 1.0 version, btw they were incompatible with Slack ones. After facing the problem of no dependency management they restructure the distribution to work with RPM’s. They adopted the portage mecanism to store packages, but it do not share anything with Gentoo’s Portage tree, and its really big (but not as big as Debian) repository.
While they include tools to handle tgz, deb and rpm:
1. The standard package management is RPM.
2. Most rpm’s from other distros will not work here either.
Works like a charm on my Dell Latitude D800.
All the tools I need for my daily job as SysAdmin are included.
1 remark: I couldn’t find a European ftp mirror.
Great distro!!
M.
[quote]They adopted the portage mecanism to store packages, but it do not share anything with Gentoo’s Portage tree, and its really big (but not as big as Debian) repository.
[/quote]
Not true … we do not store anything in portage, but we have emerge integrated at least to a point now on which I personally am waiting for a maintainer, since I am in no way able to do it all alone, even if, believe me, I try hard
Our emerge is 100% using gentoos tree.
However:
[quote]
While they include tools to handle tgz, deb and rpm:
1. The standard package management is RPM.
2. Most rpm’s from other distros will not work here either
[/quote]
Only point one is true, since I know from quite a few users that actually use binaries from other distros, even though they often convert them with alien and then install them as a tgz, since it otherwise confuses apt.
Yoper is NOT LFS bases anymore, even if I have tried to tell Distrowatch that. I have used LFS as a base to compile Version one, learned how to do my own distro and moved on to rpm, since I needed a package management system and apr is just fantastic.
Thanks I am glad you like it.
I do Yoper for happy users. If I would have done it foe me only and for learning only I would have stopped already. TO make Computer users 100% happy is my aim.
Now some might think this is spamming. But I do not make 1c out of the Yoper OS directly. I think staying free is something I learned from my V1 times ……
Under download on my website (www.yoper.com) you can find the european mirrors (quite fast ones too)
🙂
Have fun using it or using any other Linux. I love them all. That is why I integrate things into Yoper I like from other distro’s …….. I just do not like one particular Redmond firm. Very much not!
First of all, I want to thx Andreas for his distro! the yoper is my preferred distro!
But I have a personal question: How do you earn money? And where do you find all this time to work on the yoper? 😉
… and optimized to i686
http://www.archlinux.org
Once tried it …
old version (pre?) 1 , worked but preferred gentoo …
made a new website for them ..
then andreas promised me to send me a box with cds to test it .. never recieved anything …
good’ol gentoo ‘ll do the job too ..
might test it once again when i can abuse somebodies connection
I download it,and burn
after reboot with CD+iso
I got error
ISOLINUX
isk error,ax=423a drive EF
Boot failed:press any key to retry
I never got problem with other distro
may be some things wrong but why other distro never have this problem with me?
I have just tried Yoper again and have to say not bad, not bad at all.
Ok let’s be honest: The speed this distro runs at is just great! It almost won me over but then again – not having the great debian repositories and overall really good 3rd party support with packages for SID – back on MEPIS for me.
But that is only me and I’m sure others are not as dependand on Debian and 3rd party support and really should give Yoper a spin.
But who knows, maybe Yoper v3 would switch to deb and real apt (where you can TAB-complete a package name, if you know what I mean) and make use of Debian’s great unstable repositories and third party packages. Of course all of Yoper would still be 100% 686 and optimized and all… ah well, one can dream
Overall I hope you keep up the good work, although I will always look at Yoper with one sad eye since I believe many good things (for a wider audience) could be achived if such distributions would build on Debian.
1.) Why would I switch to a 386 compiled distro, if I have chosen to start from scratcj and optimise all the packages? Makes no sense to me. Debian is cool, but have you ever really compared it with Yoper’s speed … we have and debian looks pretty bad compared to Yoper (FLame me .. come on
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2.) Well I do earn my living as a linux contractor in little old NZ. I am working hard to go fullt ime on Yoper though, then youc an expect one day 10.000 + packages like Debian, maybe then Debian wills tart using our repository instead LOL
3.) If I forgot to send you a CD .. sorry ….. I have only one brain that wroks on overdrive most of the time and tends to drop things like that ….. I need help doing is all
4.) If your CD does not boot, then do a Har disk install. Easy and done … many of our users prefer it that way, since it also is faster than the other way. I just do not have enough HArdware myself to test things on. I have already 1 dozen of machines, and I wish I would have a few hundred lying around in my geek office ….
……. perhaps one day
Anyhow … thanks to you all for making my day and not completely ripping Yoper apart
.. I do learn from release to release and with the amount of users and yound new developers on board you’ll see that Yoper will progress fast.
I am posting this message from a computer running Slackware with Xorg at 1024×768 on a 14″ monitor.
You have a weird idea of spam. OSNews welcomes news about operating systems so I would not classify a release announcement spam. News that informs you about something you don’t like is not spam. It’s just boring or annoying news.
“1.) Why would I switch to a 386 compiled distro, if I have chosen to start from scratcj and optimise all the packages? Makes no sense to me. Debian is cool, but have you ever really compared it with Yoper’s speed … we have and debian looks pretty bad compared to Yoper (FLame me .. come on
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Nah, flames aren’t exactly my business
My point was though _not_ to switch too i386 packages (as they are in Debian) but to switch to .deb and have the great Debian Unstable pool as an additional option – so that packages that are not (yet) there as optimized 686 Yoper packages can be used anyway. I know that this is not going to happen and there might not be much reason too, since packages for other distros can be used with Yoper.
This is only an issue for me and people coming from SuSE, Mandrake or whatever will not fell as if they miss something, so it’s not problem — just not ‘perfect’
Btw. I have compared and yes Yoper is definitely faster, but to me (personally) it’s just not worth loosing the Debian support I’m used too, and the Debian based system I use a lot lately (MEPIS) is not ‘slow’ by any means either even though beeing based on 386 packages – but that could be changed as well sometime
Still wish you the best of luck and be it just for the fact that it’s another nice KDE based distro.
I got the same thing as you, so i downloaded the ISO from PlanetMirror.com instead and then i was able to install with no problems.
I have to say (and i posted this at Yoper forums) that i am impressed.
It is very fast and stable. All of my hardware is detected and works fine. I’ll try it out for a month or so before i decide whether to remove Mandrake 10.
cheers
peter
I tried to start the qtparted but it crashed my machine,
no response from my keyboard(usb).
No flashing lights for hd.
I wanna install on a SATA Drive, any hints
head over to the yoper forums as there is a lot of good info there
cheers
peter
got it running, nice and fast.
many errors while booting and during shutdown, but it works