Beta 2 of Progeny Debian 2.0 has been released, more info here. Also, a new Debian-based distro is coming out soon, in Australia this time (info: 1, 2, 3). More on this new distro with Gnome, soon.
Finally more information about Canonical/Warthogs/Ubuntu/whatever! I hope the zdnet article is correct and it is actually *released* on Wednesday and not just a slideshow. Been dying to try this out for a long time now.
Is Progeny Debian the one that used to release Debian Progeny a couple of years ago? If so, cool! I had a few boxes running way back then an it was a super stable distro for servers.
I guess they called it quits so for lack of money..seems that the market turned out more positive from a Linux point of view.
Now if only this came with the latest X.org release, and reasonable default SELinux policies, this would be the perfect Linux distribution… small, easily installed, easily upgradable via apt-get etc.
I’m psyched about the “Gnome-Only” aspect..Like many ,everytime I’ve tried to run Debian (with just a Gnome desktop) it gets broken somehow..
Try harder, it’s possible, I’ve done it myself. Libranet 2.8 + Gnome 2.6 in Unstable. Let me ask you this: when you update your system (apt-get) and you upgrade XFree and your Gnome packages, are you running Gnome at the same time? I notice that when I do such upgrades while running XFree and my DE, it has a hard time finishing the installation, thus breaking things. Now I know better, so I boot into single-user mode and then do the apt-get upgrade from command line.
I hope they optimize it for 586 & 686 instead of the i386 fallback..
But then you’d have to give up on using the main Debian repositories, those deb packs are i386. Seriously, i386 binaries aren’t that bad. My new Debian setup is about as fast as my tweaked Gentoo setup.
Aren’t Progeny and UserLinux trying to achieve the same thing?
Debian/Gnome desktop?
If you really think that the sole purpose of either of these projects is merely to release a Debian and GNOME based desktop, you *REALLY* need to go re-read (or at least read) their respective websites.
I have been fooling around with Linux for a few years, and I thought I’d try Debian on the new HP a404x computer that just arrived today. It came with XP. After burning the HP System Recovery disks, in case I screwed it up, I tried installing Progeny Debian 2.0, I just downloaded it. It was a No-Go. It boots to the CD, starts to load the kernl then goes blank.
I thought, gee, I’ll throw in a Knoppix disc — same thing.
Xandros — same thing. Fedora, Suse, Mepis, and none will boot.
I go to the bios setting. It all looks like a regular bios setup to me.
The tag on the front of the computer says “Designed for Microsoft Windows XP.” Does that mean I’m had?
So tell me, does anyone have a clue why this computer won’t boot even a Knoppix live Linux CD?
Yay, good choice on sid. Argh, this is frustrating. The only thing I can dig up on you guys is your bugzilla page. Please provide a torrent when you can.
Finally more information about Canonical/Warthogs/Ubuntu/whatever! I hope the zdnet article is correct and it is actually *released* on Wednesday and not just a slideshow. Been dying to try this out for a long time now.
Is Progeny Debian the one that used to release Debian Progeny a couple of years ago? If so, cool! I had a few boxes running way back then an it was a super stable distro for servers.
I guess they called it quits so for lack of money..seems that the market turned out more positive from a Linux point of view.
Regards
Yes, Progeny is the one that used to release Progeny Debian.
Now if only this came with the latest X.org release, and reasonable default SELinux policies, this would be the perfect Linux distribution… small, easily installed, easily upgradable via apt-get etc.
Fantastic job these guys are doing.
… what in California? Wednesday morning? Tuesday night? I’d like to try the distro ASAP.
Here is what I expect from a perfect Debian based distro:
– Easy to install
– Latest Gnome please, with all the neat gnome tools (GST…)
– Latest X.org please
– Ability to easily apply security updates (not apt-get upgrade)
– Maybe some system tools, or webmin
– Easily update when new Gnome release is out there without breaking something (last time I did this on debian, I broke sound server and xkb settings)
– Maybe include some light wm (fluxbox or xfce for example)
That’s it. Curently using mepis, but it is very KDE oriented and I want gnome …
The distribution that Eugenia mentioned will satisfy almost all of your points, amiroff, with excellent answers to all of them in the pipeline. ๐
debian is like mozilla, a generic unspecialised foundation upon which people build end user solutions out of.
Why is progeny.com down since a couple of months? If they’re already in beta state, surely they should put up a homepage for more info?
I’m psyched about the “Gnome-Only” aspect..Like many ,everytime I’ve tried to run Debian (with just a Gnome desktop) it gets broken somehow..
I hope they optimize it for 586 & 686 instead of the i386 fallback..
I’m psyched about the “Gnome-Only” aspect..Like many ,everytime I’ve tried to run Debian (with just a Gnome desktop) it gets broken somehow..
Try harder, it’s possible, I’ve done it myself. Libranet 2.8 + Gnome 2.6 in Unstable. Let me ask you this: when you update your system (apt-get) and you upgrade XFree and your Gnome packages, are you running Gnome at the same time? I notice that when I do such upgrades while running XFree and my DE, it has a hard time finishing the installation, thus breaking things. Now I know better, so I boot into single-user mode and then do the apt-get upgrade from command line.
I hope they optimize it for 586 & 686 instead of the i386 fallback..
But then you’d have to give up on using the main Debian repositories, those deb packs are i386. Seriously, i386 binaries aren’t that bad. My new Debian setup is about as fast as my tweaked Gentoo setup.
Aren’t Progeny and UserLinux trying to achieve the same thing?
Debian/Gnome desktop?
Aren’t Progeny and UserLinux trying to achieve the same thing?
Debian/Gnome desktop?
If you really think that the sole purpose of either of these projects is merely to release a Debian and GNOME based desktop, you *REALLY* need to go re-read (or at least read) their respective websites.
> The distribution that Eugenia mentioned will satisfy almost
> all of your points, amiroff, with excellent answers to all
> of them in the pipeline. ๐
Have you guys prepared preliminary packages of Xorg then? Is the distro based on sid?
I have been fooling around with Linux for a few years, and I thought I’d try Debian on the new HP a404x computer that just arrived today. It came with XP. After burning the HP System Recovery disks, in case I screwed it up, I tried installing Progeny Debian 2.0, I just downloaded it. It was a No-Go. It boots to the CD, starts to load the kernl then goes blank.
I thought, gee, I’ll throw in a Knoppix disc — same thing.
Xandros — same thing. Fedora, Suse, Mepis, and none will boot.
I go to the bios setting. It all looks like a regular bios setup to me.
The tag on the front of the computer says “Designed for Microsoft Windows XP.” Does that mean I’m had?
So tell me, does anyone have a clue why this computer won’t boot even a Knoppix live Linux CD?
Is it truely only designed for XP.
System Specs:
Celeron 2.8GHz
512 PC2100 DDR SDRAM
DVD/CDRW
Intergrated Intel Extreme Graphix 64meg shared
7-in-1 memory card reader
10/100 nic
v.92 data/fax
PS/2 mouse
USB 2.0
IEEE 1394 fireWire
Based on sid (and more!), but doesn’t include Xorg unfortunately. We will in our next release.
Yay, good choice on sid. Argh, this is frustrating. The only thing I can dig up on you guys is your bugzilla page. Please provide a torrent when you can.